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Now that we've got the forum part of this mostly done, we want to start turning our attention toward building our Trading Post.

We did a few beta tests with some submissions from some very reliable traders whose services we knew were already of a really good quality. However, not every submission is going to be like that.

With that said, there are a few discussion points I want to go over with everyone to make sure we have a Trading Post that has quality services.

1. Should We Disallow Certain High-Risk Services?
During my time revamping the review process for the other forum, I often ran into services that I felt were too high-risk to allow on there. As many of you are aware, I also handled disputes there from time to time, and there are some products and services that caused issues more than others. Amazon AWS accounts and SMM Panels being an example of services that would lead to disputes.

Originally, I made a list of disallowed services that were high-risk, but I removed this today as I feel it's a thing that should be discussed with everyone.

Using SMM Panels as an example, a problem I ran into with them is that they obviously prioritise orders for the mod review, but when I signed up with my own account after, I noticed a massive drop in quality. Even as recently as last year, I tried out a few SMM Panels in the other place, one of which I reviewed, and the quality was completely different; dropped views, undelivered orders, 0 customer support. I couldn't open up a dispute because of my position there, but that's a story for another time. Anyway, I did figure if we allowed them, we could put some very strict standards in place about only allowing reputable ones, and that's something we'd have to determine later.

Just to clarify as well, not every SMM Panel is bad as there were a few I reviewed that were really good (they weren't reseller panels, though). This is more about the reseller SMM panels.

2. Should We Allow E-books?
I'm personally not keen on e-books being sold here, but I can't just prohibit something because I don't have a good impression of it. It's not that every e-book is bad as I have reviewed a few there were fantastic in quality overall. Although, I know there were complaints on the other forum for a long time about these being allowed.

My question here is do you feel e-books should be sold here, and if so, are there any specific standards you feel should be in place to prevent low-quality e-books from being sold in our Trading Post?

3. Reseller Services
This was a point of confusion people on the other forum because reselling services wasn't allowed, but then they allowed reseller SMM panels. There's a similar rule in our Trading Post only prohibiting reseller services.

Using SMM panels as an example once again, should these be allowed here at all given this rule?

4. Should We Allow "Outdated" Services?
I'll use blog commenting services as an example of this. Some people feel these services are outdated in this day and age. Personally, I've never noticed any benefit to using them myself, but that doesn't mean someone else won't benefit from it.

I originally had this on the prohibited services list, but again, I removed it as I shouldn't impose my personal feelings on traders. Even still, it does bring up the question of whether or not these should not be allowed either due to quality.

5. How Should We Define "Quality"?
Should we define quality based on what they're advertising and judge them mostly on that, or should we lean toward mostly using our own quality standards?

I believe in doing a bit of both, but the way we lean with this affects what kind of listing we allow on here.

5. What Do You Feel We Should Do Differently Here?
We only have 3 services in our Trading Post right now. I know many of you want to submit as soon as you're able to, but whilst we still have only a few traders, now is the time to do things differently.

If there's anything you feel should be done to ensure we have quality listings here, I definitely want to hear it.
 
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Rules are OK, but writing a bible on rules..who is gonna read this? Fine print traps just to have an excuse to ban a member just case he didnt have the time to memorize 25 pages.

And not devaluing, giving a discount in the, I dont know, first year. But it is your forum, do as you want.
It's not my forum.

Giving a discount is the same as devaluing.

If you can afford to give 10-50% off whatever it is then the original price is already inflated.

Discounts like that work on furniture; no one really buys a sofa at the full retail price, there is and are always sales on. Some sales tactics do not translate well to services or products.
 
Rules are OK, but writing a bible on rules..who is gonna read this? Fine print traps just to have an excuse to ban a member just case he didnt have the time to memorize 25 pages.
I agree the other forum is just too censored to be usable. But I don't think this is going to happen here, admins already allow many things that aren't allowed on the other forum. It's just that they figure out what will cause them legal trouble so they want to avoid these things. It already has 10x more freedom, don't worry, I don't think this is an issue here. But some things perhaps are better suited to cyryllic side of the internet and it's fine to separate these.
 
All right, I've taken the feedback from this discussion, and we'll be updating our Trading Post over the next couple of weeks based on the feedback here.

Here's the gist of it:
  • We can make the review process even more stringent, but we'll be doing pre-approvals so that we don't run into the issue of someone buying Sapphire, getting a rejection, and then asking for a refund/charging back.
  • The existing Trading Post rules will be simplified. Much of the existing rules can be consolidated, after all.
  • We'll add the specific listing requirements to the top of each Trading Post section. Again, we'll consolidate it so that it's not too much to go through.
  • E-books will be allowed, but we need to develop a review process for these.
  • SMM panel will be allowed, but reseller panels will not. I know how to identify reseller panels, so I'll be sharing that information with the other staff.
Thank you everyone who responded to this!
 
I think selling ebooks is fine.

For rules not to sure most eBooks pretty cheap to buy like $1 to max of say $20 so to me risk is pretty small.

Make it simple lets say someone sells a ebook called "Basic of SEO " for say $10 this covers things such as how to setup Google accounts,metags and some other basics. If after reading it say 95% could get some of the basic of SEO then I think the book fine.
 
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