Watch out. Companies track you with Slack
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Don't see whats wrong?
You can monitor logins with most remote software so you can track hours and productivity. Most business software like that has login information.
All of our customer service team has a monitored login, how many tickets they respond to and so on.
This is nothing new nor shocking.
I don't get understand reading the link why the person didn't notify his company that his internet was down or whatever the issue was or that the other woman he mentioned didn't let the company know she went for a doctors appointment. I mean thats all basic work place etiquette?
The manager asking if everything is OK because of the late start is fine also.
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This is beyond annoying and I think they can be sued for having such a misleading name.
What's the point of calling it like that if you can't really slack? Very misleading
What's the point of calling it like that if you can't really slack? Very misleading
I don't care about it as I am flexible at work hours and there are casses I atay way after my finishing work hours and that's a compensation for those delays on start hours
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Well, I don't think it's really applicable to me in that instance because the login stats don't really matter as much as the hours I track
The agency I work with, I don't think they actually bother about this because you can even be logged in and it does not necessarily mean you are doing any work that you are tracking
I even work on weekends and track my time, so I guess it depends on the company
The agency I work with, I don't think they actually bother about this because you can even be logged in and it does not necessarily mean you are doing any work that you are tracking
I even work on weekends and track my time, so I guess it depends on the company
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not sure why you are so surprised
nearly every modern app sends data back to the devs side another way or another, sometimes they just enable that same tracking your usage for the admins to see.
some are identifier, some are hashed, while others store it in plain text.
but then again, if you haven't finished your work, why are you slacking at work anyways.
your paid to work, not be lazy.
if you done your work, you have nothing to worry about.
wait i forget
most of you are "your own boss"
so what you gonna do
self snitch on yourself for being lazy?
nearly every modern app sends data back to the devs side another way or another, sometimes they just enable that same tracking your usage for the admins to see.
some are identifier, some are hashed, while others store it in plain text.
but then again, if you haven't finished your work, why are you slacking at work anyways.
your paid to work, not be lazy.
if you done your work, you have nothing to worry about.
wait i forget
most of you are "your own boss"
so what you gonna do
self snitch on yourself for being lazy?
Idk kinda misleading bro. All they’re doing is using that online indicator not like they’re tracking keystrokes.
And if they want to look at all your emails they will. "My house my rules!". There are plenty of stories or inventions being snatched up by companies because someone save a document on a laptop owned by the company. I'm not surprised they spy.
Hold my beer... affiliate marketing... products... business to customer... reselling...
Boss count ZERO.
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Yeah, not everything is an agency. But I agree, that's how it looks in an agency, exactly why I can't stand this crap.
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If it's not an agency you usually need to offer customer service of some form, account managers, it's all basically the same.
This is not how it's supposed to be. In most cases the client needs you a lot more than you need them. If you don't get the respect you deserve you can (and should) kick the client good bye.
You're doing it long enough to be able to choose your clients.
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I keep saying I got broke, I'm lower class than I was, etc. I shouldn't be doing services in the first place. It's literally the other way around, people here start as working class and go up and I went broke and now I need to do some services by myself, wtf you don't understand, Jesus fuckin Christ. How much do you live in your own bubble, huh? You don't understand that for someone that was richer your life dreams are a catastrophe? This is the alternative I had to getting a job, which I personally don't want to get. Also in a way these are better clients from what I have available since they send couple k in one go, upfront, so 2-3 clients and I don't need an employer, any extra smaller ones that pay couple 100s and I either have a bonus or these smaller clients fill in what 1 missing medium sized client would pay. Since I get paid upfront I keep the money even if company goes bankrupt. I don't pay platform fees like people on Fiverr or Upwork since Facebook groups are free. I outsource some services to whitelabel agency, just not PPC. I work remotely so I was able to do the currency arbitrage thing by moving to cheaper country. What do you not understand, that I was in a better position before and now I'm poorer and I'm fuckin depressed and want to get rich? What's your fuckin problem? Maybe focus on yourself and ignore my posts or something.
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I'm not sure what in the sentence "You're doing it long enough to be able to choose your clients." caused this meltdown, but from here it looks like you're stuck in your 'poor me' mentality and it's not on me to solve.
I was where you're now and I'm not there anymore. Instead of asking for (or god forbid -follow) advice you were given 50 thousand times just on OO, you chose and keep choosing the self pity route that gets you nowhere.
You keep working with businesses that value you because you're cheap - you'll never step out of this bubble because it's a race to the bottom.
If you can't describe why your services are worth what you want to ask for them there's nothing anyone can you for you. It's just a mental barrier.
Not to mention that you live under the assumption that everyone here knows every single snippet of your life, and whoever dared you say that you can choose your own client lives in a bubble.
You drew a circle and put yourself in the center, not my problem.. I know very little about you, and the fact that you expect me to know your financials, where you live, what clients you work with, how much they pay, and whatnot only suggest that it's you who live in a bubble.
I know bits and pieces and can't remember most of what people said on forums. This is pretty normal, and the fact that you think people memorizes everything you ever said is insane IMO.
I suggest you use that ignore button, because clearly me saying 'you're good enough' got under your skin. I don't know why.
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Then why you reply at all and won't you use the ignore button on my account? I already ignored people in the past, the problem is ignore is one-way and then they still read my posts and engage with them, I just don't see their posts when logged in but weird discussions about me continue right in my threads. So what's the point of using the ignore button? That's why people leave, it's just easier to leave than to deal with corpo slaves gossip. Also you forgot to charge your clients 20k, I assume that's why your retention is good, you work for less money than you claim you do, don't be so fuckin full of yourself. I prefer to have a higher churn but get paid more. My clients do this too, they try to lower rates after a while and instead of agreeing I go on sales dms/calls with new ones instead and get paid more that I would if I stayed with previous ones. It's a choice, I prefer to have low client retention but bigger pay. You have retention but you forget to charge lol. What a 'businessman' lol. It's obvious you're getting these clients because you're good specialist (not denying that) and you undercharge. You have referrals from your previous 9 to 5. That's it. It's not a business, just independent specialist getting paid for his work without an employment contract. Nothing bad about it but it's completely different to what I'm interested in and I'm not looking to do what you are doing or to be your clone. Honestly you're very dumb imo, @SirTop got me more, he was like 'dump this, become a real estate agent', @RiskyStuff suggested me to be a car salesperson
. But yeah, they got me more. You don't understand shit. The concept of a middleman or sales is just above you.I was so good for you all... Every time someone had a problem, I'd rush to check if they're ok and give moral support. But you always belittled me and wanted to bring me down to your level. Honestly I regret that I registered an account there and here. There's literally no point, I can go google/grok/chatgpt stuff because you won't tell me anything that isn't already there and you won't give 'human side' either (moral support, business connections even if paid) unless you count endless 'we hate bhw' gossip as human edge in the age of AI lol.
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okThen why you reply at all and won't you use the ignore button on my account? I already ignored people in the past, the problem is ignore is one-way and then they still read my posts and engage with them, I just don't see their posts when logged in but weird discussions about me continue right in my threads. So what's the point of using the ignore button? That's why people leave, it's just easier to leave than to deal with corpo slaves gossip. Also you forgot to charge your clients 20k, I assume that's why your retention is good, you work for less money than you claim you do, don't be so fuckin full of yourself. I prefer to have a higher churn but get paid more. My clients do this too, they try to lower rates after a while and instead of agreeing I go on sales dms/calls with new ones instead and get paid more that I would if I stayed with previous ones. It's a choice, I prefer to have low client retention but bigger pay. You have retention but you forget to charge lol. What a 'businessman' lol. It's obvious you're getting these clients because you're good specialist (not denying that) and you undercharge. You have referrals from your previous 9 to 5. That's it. It's not a business, just independent specialist getting paid for his work without an employment contract. Nothing bad about it but it's completely different to what I'm interested in and I'm not looking to do what you are doing or to be your clone. Honestly you're very dumb imo, @SirTop got me more, he was like 'dump this, become a real estate agent', @RiskyStuff suggested me to be a car salesperson
I was so good for you all... Every time someone had a problem, I'd rush to check if they're ok and give moral support. But you always belittled me and wanted to bring me down to your level. Honestly I regret that I registered an account there and here. There's literally no point, I can go google/grok/chatgpt stuff because you won't tell me anything that isn't already there and you won't give 'human side' either (moral support, business connections even if paid) unless you count endless 'we hate bhw' gossip as human edge in the age of AI lol.
