Proton releases confidential AI chatbot

[Dopious]

Lumo stores data locally and uses encryption to secure conversations.

Swiss company Proton's privacy-protecting services for email, cloud storage and more have earned the company a loyal and growing user base. Now it's launching another service, The Verge reports .

Lumo is an AI chatbot that is designed to be as privacy-friendly as the company’s other services. Lumo uses open language models such as Mistral Nemo, Openhands 32B and OLMO 2 32GB. These run on servers in the EU and use what Proton calls “ zero access encryption ” – encryption that ensures that no outsider can access a user’s data, not even Proton staff.

“Tech giants are using AI to speed up the collection of sensitive user data and accelerate the world’s transition to surveillance capitalism. Our vision for Lumo is AI that puts people before profit,” says Proton CEO Andy Yen.

Users without an account can send up to 25 prompts per week to Lumo, and receive no chat history. Users with free accounts or who have accounts for other Proton services receive 100 prompts per week, encrypted chat history, and can upload small files. Finally, there is a Lumo Plus subscription that provides unlimited prompts, longer history, and the ability to upload larger files.

Lumo can also work with files on Proton Drive for customers who have that service, while maintaining end-to-end encryption so that the contents of the files cannot be leaked to outsiders or controlled by Proton.

Source: https://www.theverge.com/news/711860/proton-privacy-focused-ai-chatbot

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[Rem]

they better not nuke and increase the plans for this shit

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oh its not even included in the OG plans
lmao

 

[Dopious]

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That week huh.

 

[Zwielicht]

I use Proton’s email service simply because they’re easy to create, but I’ve always heard reports about them not being great in terms of of confidentiality. For instance, on the other forum, I remember talking with others who mentioned that Proton would report their emails. I don’t know if it’s true, but that seemed to happen to different people on a regular basis.

 

[29dogs]

they better not nuke and increase the plans for this shit

edit..
oh its not even included in the OG plans
lmao

lol of course this is the case. Typical proton.

 

[ggmopa]

I use Proton’s email service simply because they’re easy to create, but I’ve always heard reports about them not being great in terms of of confidentiality. For instance, on the other forum, I remember talking with others who mentioned that Proton would report their emails. I don’t know if it’s true, but that seemed to happen to different people on a regular basis.

There is just something about a company that try's to create some greedy monopoly when it comes to an ethical industry like privacy rights and freedom that I can't bring myself to trust.
Like if I want an encrypted email provider - I mean proper email provider with decent storage etc, why should I have to feel forced to use also their VPN, Wallet, Storage and so on too as part of the plan? Same goes for Nord.

Nah, I want company's to do one thing and do it well and give me what I asked for and paid for. So that in mind here are the best Proton and Nord replacements imho:

Email: Posteo and Mailfence are both great
Password Manager: 1Password, Bitwarden, Heard good things about Ente's 2FA too
Cloud storage: Tresorit, Ente (for media)
AI: Just use all your typical AI tools in a VM

 

[kimse]

That actually sounds pretty solid. Nice to see a privacy-focused option in the mix for once. Curious to see how Lumo holds up against the big players, might give it a spin just for the local storage and no data scraping.