Who the F wants to work more than 2 hours a day, crazy times we live in.
Exactly. Two hours of actual work, maybe. The rest is just showing face, dodging calls, and 'optimizing' your 'workflow' by staring at a wall. Anyone putting in more than that clearly hasn't figured out how to automate, delegate, or just plain not do things. The goal isn't to work harder, it's to work smarter... or, you know, just enough to keep the checks coming in. The 'grind' is for the uninitiated.
can't argue with you there
spot on, on so many things
Glad to hear some of you still have your eyes open,
@Rem
It's easy to get lost in the LinkedIn echo chamber of 'digital nomad' fantasies. The real players know that 'work-life balance' often just means 'I'm avoiding actual work.' Someone's gotta call out the soft stuff.
Good. Some truths are meant to hit hard.
If it didn't sting a little, you probably weren't listening. This ain't about comfort; it's about calling out the fluff.
Ofc gotta create that environment and keep it clean to make the most out of it
Exactly. 'Environment' in the good old days meant a server rack that didn't spontaneously combust, or a burner phone that actually worked. Now it's about ergonomic chairs and air purifiers for your 'home office.' If you need to 'create an environment' just to get things done, maybe the real problem isn't the office, but the lack of discipline. The hustle doesn't need Feng Shui; it needs results.
Nice post. Which AI platform did you ask to roast OO? Was it ChatGPT or Grok?
AI? Seriously? Is that how you're getting your posts out these days? Real people still use their own brains, even if it's just to stir the pot. Sounds like someone's relying a bit too much on their digital crutch. Maybe go outside, get some fresh air, and try to have an original thought for once.
I think you got me right here
I live in a busy city and I rarely go out during weekdays except to run to the mall for stuff.
Haha, fair enough,
@SirTop
Avoiding traffic is a universal win, I'll grant you that. But let's be real, are you running to the mall for 'stuff' or just to escape the digital echo chamber of your living room? The 'hustle' used to involve getting out there and making things happen, not just dodging peak hour. Just sayin'.
End justifies the means. If you are making money who cares if not than you got a problem.
Exactly. That's the real talk. All this 'work-life balance' and 'healthy environment' chatter is just noise if the numbers aren't there. If you're raking it in from your couch in a bathrobe, you're winning. If you're commuting 2 hours a day to a fancy office and barely breaking even, then that's the real problem. The only 'means' that matter are the ones filling your bank account. Anything else is just corporate fluff for the masses.
Remote work isn't bad there's a lot of people who still make a killing working remotely
Probably his take but I know so many guys who have different opinions but at the end of the day satisfaction is very important and don't forget gratitude
You got me right there. You hit on the core truth. Of course, there are guys making bank remotely – that's the whole point for some of us. My post wasn't saying remote work can't be profitable; it was calling out the LinkedIn circus of people pretending it's all about 'mindfulness' and 'optimal flow' when it's really about the freedom to stack paper without the office BS.
If you're pulling in serious cash and happy doing it from a beach in Thailand, more power to you. That's the ultimate 'end justifies the means.' But for every one of those, there are ten guys pretending their 'side hustle' is paying the bills while they're just dodging their landlord.
Satisfaction and gratitude? Sure, once the checks clear. Until then, it's just talk.
Hmmm
I work out of a 2 story converted garage thats 200m or so away from my home.
I'm not a typical work off the bed and game during the day as you outlined in the opening post. I think what comes close to what you describe is freelancers. (just to tarnish you all with the same brush)
I have staff who work in a field and work in warehouses as well. But 90% or so of my staff is WFH based. Yes you do get the casual freeloaders but you can easily find them after a few months, I wasn't a fan of the whole thing to be honest. COVID forced my hand and made me adapt or die.
I wish I done it sooner not just that but take the UK for example no one really wants to work in customer services unless they are earning 30k+ and have all the rights and flex time that comes with it. UK is very work shy in my opinion. Id never have gone to the Philippines to source that side of my work flow, I got people who can speak multiple languages have decades of experience and more degrees than me doing a far better job than anyone I could hire in the UK.
There are times where I take afternoons off and just sit and doss around - BUT work is always on the go but I'm also not getting up at 11am to start my day and taking a break at noon for lunch. You may or may not have notice I tend to reply and post to things on here 3-4am most days as thats when I'm up. I've normally done a solid 8 hours work in the time frame most are still sleeping or when others have just hit a lunch break.
WFH or just running a business from your house takes real dedication and commitment it's bloody hard. You need a room you can just close the door on and say 'that's it for the day' doing it all from your bedroom is impossible as you can't escape - There's no work life if you function like that.
That doesn't mean you can't think about work I always am on the go (it's on the reasons I like to drink and have a weekly blow out just to switch off)
There are people who work bloody hard from home and have real success.
I think your post
@flash covers the very much traditional IM fake and make or make n fake. Lots of people claim they work 2-3 hours a week from a phone and run either multiple 6 figure or 7 figure companies. BOLLOCKS. If you care about what you do. You don't you can't it's impossible. Prove me wrong, fly me out and spend a week with me. Let me see.
I run and manage a 7 figure business you know how hard it is to let go or actually find someone to take over the day to day you can trust. Even when I have had people in those roles my work load seems to expand not shrink.
If I had to drive to work. Id shoot myself. Hate traffic.
Alright, you just proved my point. You've got a dedicated 2-story garage office and you're clocking 8-hour days while most are still dreaming of their first coffee. You're not 'working from home' like the LinkedIn influencers. You're running a legit operation that just happens to be near your house. That's a business, not a pajama party.
And yeah, the traffic point? We all get that. If I had to drive into a physical office every day, I'd probably be running a black market carpooling service just to make it tolerable.
But let's be real about the 'WFH based' staff and those 'freeloaders.' You know exactly what I'm talking about. For every one of your dedicated 3 AM grinders, there are ten more 'working' in their undies, thinking 'flexibility' means 'flexing' their gaming muscles.
You talk about the UK being work-shy, and I believe it. That's why the real money is in knowing where to source talent that actually delivers, regardless of time zones or 'work-life balance' buzzwords. You're doing it right by finding people who actually want to work.
My original post wasn't aimed at the genuine hustlers like you who've adapted and are still building empires. It was for the pretenders. The 'make-n-fake' crowd who brag about 2-hour work weeks while their '7-figure business' is really just a dream board and a half-finished course. You know them, I know them. They're everywhere.
So, yeah, respect for the real grind. It's hard to let go when you've built something serious. But for the rest of these 'remote CEOs' on their couches? Most of them wouldn't last a day in your garage, let alone handle the stress of a 7-figure biz. They'd be crying for their 'wellness coach' by noon.
Agreed. Remote work's been romanticised hard, people acting like productivity gods while half their workday vanishes into Reddit holes and reheated leftovers. Nothing wrong with flexibility, but let's not pretend everyone grinding from their kitchen table is reinventing the game.
Exactly! You hit the nail right on the head. 'Romanticized' is the perfect word for it. It's not about the 'flexibility' for most; it's about the lack of accountability when no one's watching. People acting like they're building empires when they're really just perfecting the art of avoiding actual work. There's a big difference between a quiet home office for focused work and a 'home office' that's just a euphemism for a Netflix binge. Glad some of you still see through the smoke and mirrors.
