Forums Banned from BHW

[AdeelAlam]

Hello Fellow OO Members,

Last night I received a permanent ban from BHW over sharing some memes and roasting one of the mods with memes.

I hope same does not happen here, memes are meant to be enjoyed and not taken personally.

The meme that got me banned:

Thank you

 

[roydan]

Just be respectful.. I didn't see the thread on BHW but as long as it doesn't become mod abuse or in bad taste you should probably be fine on OO.

 

[AdeelAlam]

Just be respectful.. I didn't see the thread on BHW but as long as it doesn't become mod abuse or in bad taste you should probably be fine on OO.

Maan, I never disrespected anybody, don't know whats wrong with their admin.

 

[GoldenGlovez]

Sigh... as a former BHW mod, I've seen it so many times people being absolute pricks in DM or on the IRC, demanding service reviews, getting angry when you're not bending backwards to resolve their issue immediately, etc, etc. Then when they finally take it public and continue to be dicks, you ban them, and an alt pops up crying they did nothing wrong and/or it was only a one-time thing. I'm not saying this is you OP, but in the old BHW days none of that shit was tolerated, I was FAR FAR more lenient with people than the old school pre-DD mods & admins I learned from, the sword came down quick and hard with those guys. It was DD when he came onboard that told the old crew to dial it back and not ban so quickly. Now if you were genuinely banned for posting a single meme aimed at a mod out of jest, then sure that is silly, but 9/10 times I've seen that isn't always the full picture.

 

[notNewB]

You have been banned for not listening to mod warnings. They asked to not spam and merge your memes into single posts which you kept doing after multiple mod messages and that eventually got you banned.

Stupid reason for banning a 2 years old account with 5 positive feedbacks and 2k+ reaction score. They don't care who you are. If you irritate them the slightest, they chop your head off.

Is SettingSun77 BTB's gf or something?

 

[ggmopa]

I go over for a gander after ages and this is literally the first post I see from a long time member:

'reporting all these AI replies won't solve the problem, as moderators always respond and advise in such threads.

i ve not been here for around 2 years till February and now i have an impression that 90% of ALL content excepting Marketplace is generic stupid AI.
bots asking, bots replying'

Is it really that bad there now?

 

[AdeelAlam]

Sigh...

Thanks man, hell with them.

You have been banned for not listening to mod warnings. They asked to not spam and merge your memes into single posts which you kept doing after multiple mod messages and that eventually got you banned.

She told me to give a 2 min gap before posting, which I did. Not sure, what happened after that.

Is SettingSun77 BTB's gf or something?

For sure, they bangin.

I go over for a gander after ages and this is literally the first post I see from a long time member:

Yes, it is really bad. If you ask for a genuine query, most of the answers are AI.

 

[Abdul123]

I've seen people getting banned for ridiculous reasons.

A friend of mine (whom I recommended to join that shitty place) was banned for asking for a couple of trials in the marketplace.
He was indeed a new member and maybe this is the reason but had only made about 2-3 posts before he got banned.

Reason: Spam

It's getting ridiculous. You can't do anything or say anything without receiving a warning or getting banned.

Imagine how confused new members must feel when navigating the forum!

 

[roydan]

whom I recommended to join

How about you send him here as well?
Here's the link you can share:

https://officeoutlaw.com/register/?referrer=769

 

[ggmopa]

I just spent a while 'catching up' on that site. It doesn't seem anything has really changed since when I was a member. Still tonnes of spam, crappy english (use a translator ffs), scamming still seems to be through the roof - did they even go anywhere with the marketplace upgrade? And now there is some system magical system in the works that will apparently do away with AI bot spam. Just reads as: 'we will fine tune our bots so it's not so obvious' to me. This is just a bit of constructive criticism. No disrespect. But seem to be all talk so far.

 

[Abdul123]

I just spent a while 'catching up' on that site. It doesn't seem anything has really changed since when I was a member. Still tonnes of spam, crappy english (use a trasnlator ffs), scamming still seems to be through the roof - did they even go anywhere with the marketplace upgrade? And now there is some system magical system on the works that will apparently do away woth poor quality spam. Just reads as: 'we will font tune our bots so it's not so obvious' to me. All seems like window dressing. Wonder if they are planning to sell.

If they're trying to sell, they're doing a terrible job because the forum is getting worse every day. Traffic is declining massively and it's filled with AI bots...

I bet that if they ever try to sell, they'll set an insane asking price just because of the site's history and brand name, even though it's basically dead now.

Maybe selling would be for the best since they're all old heads, and it could allow younger, more passionate people to take over.

However, if they do sell, I doubt it will end up in the right hands anyway, because that's just how it is.

 

[t2van]

How about you send him here as well?
Here's the link you can share:

https://officeoutlaw.com/register/?referrer=769

Is that YOUR referral link @roydan for trophy and referral leader board ranking?

 

[ggmopa]

If they're trying to sell, they're doing a terrible job because the forum is getting worse every day. Traffic is declining massively and it's filled with AI bots...

I bet that if they ever try to sell, they'll set an insane asking price just because of the site's history and brand name, even though it's basically dead now.

Maybe selling would be for the best since they're all old heads, and it could allow younger, more passionate people to take over.

However, if they do sell, I doubt it will end up in the right hands anyway, because that's just how it is.

Too late to sell though imho. Everyone is botting to make their site look bigger than it is. They also seem to be losing rankings even to SEO tools pushing their own blog and knowledgebases pages. And there is no real incentive for anyone that isn't selling or astroturfing for marketplace gigs to even be there. Treating members like crap isn't exactly the way forward. If the seemingly countless stories of people talking about unfair banning and treatment, and abuse of power are true, might just be the crappy moderating and poor administrative decisions catching up with them.

 

[Abdul123]

Too late to sell though imho. Everyone is botting to make their site look bigger than it is. They also seem to be losing rankings even to SEO tools pushing their own blog and knowledgebases pages. And there is no real incentive for anyone that isn't selling or astroturfing for marketplace gigs to even be there. Treating members like crap isn't exactly the way forward. If the seemingly countless stories of people talking about unfair banning and treatment, and abuse of power are true, might just be the crappy moderating and poor administrative decisions catching up with them.

As I mentioned in my previous threads, they are overestimating the community aspect, which is largely inactive and filled AI slop.

In reality, the primary reason people continue to go there is the marketplace.

However, that aspect is also declining due to the recent decisions and treating both buyers and sellers like shit.

As you said no reason/incentive to be there anymore.

Sure, maybe once in a while a couple of new people will stick around despite all the power abuse and the rules that seem to be against everyone and everything.

But can the forum survive long-term with just those few? I don’t think so.

Even some established sellers who have been there for a long time take 24 to 48 hours to reply to a private message, which indicates that they aren’t checking in as often as they used to.

 

[roydan]

Is that YOUR referral link @roydan for trophy and referral leader board ranking?

I am innocent!! It's @Abdul123 's user ID.

I'd be lying if I said it didn't crossed my mind though.

 

[shattered world]

As I mentioned in my previous threads, they are overestimating the community aspect, which is largely inactive and filled AI slop.

In reality, the primary reason people continue to go there is the marketplace.

However, that aspect is also declining due to the recent decisions and treating both buyers and sellers like shit.

As you said no reason/incentive to be there anymore.

Sure, maybe once in a while a couple of new people will stick around despite all the power abuse and the rules that seem to be against everyone and everything.

But can the forum survive long-term with just those few? I don’t think so.

Even some established sellers who have been there for a long time take 24 to 48 hours to reply to a private message, which indicates that they aren’t checking in as often as they used to.

My thing is why the fuck is anyone even still posting there after everything they've done? It's one thing for the sellers to take shit, but you have some people who are on here and on there still posting like normal.

Those exec bans they did that they then reversed because they knew they did them for no fucking reason, the random fucking rules they keep adding in, the power tripping mods, then they lied about Z and Imp leaving, then there's the shit they did to t0mmy, the way they just got rid of misterf or any of the other volunteer mods. All this shit and you still have members who know about it posting in the fucking lounge. No wonder the mods think they can get away with this stuff cause members are just letting them do what they want.

People need to get over what BHW was and let that site die already.

 

[Abdul123]

My thing is why the fuck is anyone even still posting there after everything they've done? It's one thing for the sellers to take shit, but you have some people who are on here and on there still posting like normal.

Those exec bans they did that they then reversed because they knew they did them for no fucking reason, the random fucking rules they keep adding in, the power tripping mods, then they lied about Z and Imp leaving, then there's the shit they did to t0mmy, the way they just got rid of misterf or any of the other volunteer mods. All this shit and you still have members who know about it posting in the fucking lounge. No wonder the mods think they can get away with this stuff cause members are just letting them do what they want.

People need to get over what BHW was and let that site die already.

True. I know a couple of names you're referring to, but I'd prefer not to say.

 

[roydan]

My thing is why the fuck is anyone even still posting there after everything they've done? It's one thing for the sellers to take shit, but you have some people who are on here and on there still posting like normal.

Those exec bans they did that they then reversed because they knew they did them for no fucking reason, the random fucking rules they keep adding in, the power tripping mods, then they lied about Z and Imp leaving, then there's the shit they did to t0mmy, the way they just got rid of misterf or any of the other volunteer mods. All this shit and you still have members who know about it posting in the fucking lounge. No wonder the mods think they can get away with this stuff cause members are just letting them do what they want.

People need to get over what BHW was and let that site die already.

There's a difference between supporting the forum and wanting to hang out with the community.

 

[shattered world]

True. I know a couple of names you're referring to, but I'd prefer not to say.

It’s more than just a couple of names.

There's a difference between supporting the forum and wanting to hang out with the community.

Look bro I don’t think you’re bad for that. But posting on there is still supporting that forum. You support them with your presence, your posts and threads and all that. Your content is how they make money.

Nothing wrong with wanting to hangout with the community but the entire community needs to decide as a whole to move on from that place. Literally anywhere else is better and if any of those places start acting the way BHW’s admin did then fuck those places too.

 

[ggmopa]

As I mentioned in my previous threads, they are overestimating the community aspect, which is largely inactive and filled AI slop.

In reality, the primary reason people continue to go there is the marketplace.

However, that aspect is also declining due to the recent decisions and treating both buyers and sellers like shit.

As you said no reason/incentive to be there anymore.

Sure, maybe once in a while a couple of new people will stick around despite all the power abuse and the rules that seem to be against everyone and everything.

But can the forum survive long-term with just those few? I don’t think so.

Even some established sellers who have been there for a long time take 24 to 48 hours to reply to a private message, which indicates that they aren’t checking in as often as they used to.

Makes sense to me. It was my brother that introduced me to the forum back around lockdown time when I said I wanted to learn marketing to help with the family business. I have since shelved that idea due to other commitments but I did take that place, very very seriously since. But one little disagreement with mods, instead of handling any constructive critcisim and maybe passing on feedback, I felt they took that personally, as if you are questioning their 'authority'. I swear I felt after a disagreement a mod waited ages to leap on me again at the right enough moment - which, in this case was 'arguing' with a 'more favourite' member. Granted I was in no position to be throwing tonnes of money at them, but I was still a paying member. I bought as regularly as I should have, and I tried my best to abide by the rules; I never even used any profanities on the board, let alone anything else. All that hard work building up a reputation to try to help me earn a living and *poof*. Just like that, it's gone. And down to I feel - ego problems of a few people in power. The last part is obviously disputable. But that's how it looked to me and I was hardly there to make trouble Anyway, I did think Z was one of the more pleasant and easy going staff their to talk to. Some of the mods were fine too. Decent in fact. But with others, it was the case they would become assholes seemingly as soon as they got promoted, wheras some were assholes abusing power since before I got there, and apparently continued to be so after I was no longer a member.