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[RiskyStuff]

Sometimes I wondered if BTB ever did something for fun in business...
His approaches seemed boring...

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He had some branding but it was mostly because of his high post count he earned only by moderation for years and telling ppl stories in his Florida English. Being old was also big part of it all.

He was consistent as hell, but that's the only thing I can say.

Man of pure discipline.

But for sure he knew how to skip the fun and increase hard work. He even said to me that laughing isn't his thing lol.

Now I think internet marketing seems like this intense, boring grind where only scaling matters and the only fun is stealing copyrighted materials. Da fuq.

Meh, I knew enough. I was a serious buyer rather than a general participant. Bare in mind I was about fifteen when I joined which I guess is the only reason I took it seriously until I realised what a big joke the site is.

Fifteen sounds about right for a 'serious' buyer there, though judging by all these ridiculous copyright thieving capn crunch and cartoon network flavoured seo business deals they've been getting away with somehow, the average age of a serious 'buyer' there might be even lower

What other sites do you know for buying if any? Quality on BHW is mediocre 85% of the time. Takes me weeks to vet people there.

 

[ggmopa]

What other sites do you know for buying if any? Quality on BHW is mediocre 85% of the time. Takes me weeks to vet people there.

I mean most of the blackhat stuff is gone. There were places that would resell some of the 'less' criminal stuff from genesis marketplace that were food for bottong and astroturfing for IM pruposes but they all fell apart when Genesis got taken down. There are places for wraez and stuff like that specifically, but it's not the same.

There isn't much out there now besides bhw that is directly related to IM as a broad subject, which is what blows my mind. How has nobody mananged to spring up as a serious competitor to date is quite baffling. It's hardly Amazon Marketplace. Of course unless we count SM channels, which might be part of the reason no one serious and capable enough might think it's not worth the effort. But still, with the kind of money they seem to make, you'd think someone out there might have felt it was worth a shot. This was all before Officeoutlaw of course. But still...

 

[TheVigilante]

I mean most of the blackhat stuff is gone. There were places that would resell some of the 'less' criminal stuff from genesis marketplace that were food for bottong and astroturfing for IM pruposes but they all fell apart when Genesis got taken down. There are places for wraez and stuff like that specifically, but it's not the same.

There isn't much out there now besides bhw that is directly related to IM as a broad subject, which is what blows my mind. How has nobody mananged to spring up as a serious competitor to date is quite baffling. It's hardly Amazon Marketplace. Of course unless we count SM channels, which might be part of the reason no one serious and capable enough might think it's not worth the effort. But still, with the kind of money they seem to make, you'd think someone out there might have felt it was worth a shot. This was all before Officeoutlaw of course. But still...

Don't you think there are still some hidden gems with the help of AI can take it a step further and one can revive it all thanks to AI?

 

[LegacyBuilder248]

Don't you think there are still some hidden gems with the help of AI can take it a step further and one can revive it all thanks to AI?

not at BHW.
The motivation to post usefull staff there is ZERO.
In the beginning you got exec vip at BHW for posting usefull staff and people shared there so it was a giving and taking.
Later they changed it and put only buddies into exec and co and moved good content into hidden mode so what was the benefit for posting good methods other than feeding the pricks.
And sorry t0mmy but you were also part of the issue with your nonsense there.
Corrupt Mods etc .
I remember when i got banned my 2008 account on BHW for calling BigBuddy a scammer who cheapted many people.
Mods abuse as always and a month later he got banned for taking money and other staff from BHW.

People love to share if they also receive something valueble back but BHW is only giving to the leechers with nothing in return.
And i forgat Damien being the master prick of all who always act like he would care but when he is needed he simply do not care.

 

[t2van]

People love to share if they also receive something valueble back but BHW is only giving to the leechers with nothing in return.

I'm miss quoting and probably has nothing to do with it all but just to touch on that.

That's not forum-specific.

That's just people and humans in general. There's a reason why getting reviews online has a sub 2% conversion rate if you're lucky. No one gives praise anymore or at all. It's rare. People only want to moan and talk shit. It's easier to grumble and moan than it is to give any kind of merit to another human or company. It's very much take, take, take rather than give. It applies to everything and everyone.

 

[RiskyStuff]

I'm miss quoting and probably has nothing to do with it all but just to touch on that.

That's not forum-specific.

That's just people and humans in general. There's a reason why getting reviews online has a sub 2% conversion rate if you're lucky. No one gives praise anymore or at all. It's rare. People only want to moan and talk shit. It's easier to grumble and moan than it is to give any kind of merit to another human or company. It's very much take, take, take rather than give. It applies to everything and everyone.

I give more than I receive, but what I give is utter shite. My therapist was better than me. But now she takes money per hour... still offers some free services.

Most info on BHW is misleading. I found maybe three guys who were able to admit half of their posts are bullshit. And they were all execs / mods.

 

[RiskyStuff]

If you don't believe me, check this out.

They many times blame accounts providers, proxy providers, cloaking providers and everything around themselves, just not their own creation.
Hell, even IRS! Or some "patches".

They never blame their own content, what they release and what they build. Factually, most BHW users do not build anything. Some of them create SaaS that is literally filled with errors and bad assumptions. They always blame the system they're trying to game.

I had answered over 1000 threads filled with all this, so I know something about it.

This is true they're 15 or 18 years old on average.

Psychologists I met called it nothing but failed attempts at manipulation leading to self-deception and bad karma.
They said my conclusions are obvious for someone at their age - 40, 50 yo. I felt like a fool and then started to notice myself falling into those patterns. Those patterns are characteristic for guess what... poverty.

 

[t0mmy]

In the beginning you got exec vip at BHW for posting usefull staff and people shared there so it was a giving and taking.
Later they changed it and put only buddies into exec and co and moved good content into hidden mode so what was the benefit for posting good methods other than feeding the pricks.
And sorry t0mmy but you were also part of the issue with your nonsense there.
Corrupt Mods etc .

ohai guys... I'm back.

@LegacyBuilder248 it's a little hard to address what you've claimed about me without knowing who you were back then, you were banned by BigBuddy so that was before I was a staff member.

I'll ask you though how was I "part of the issue with your nonsense there" - really? Ok let me break this down on how that statement contradicts what you said above it.

1. First line is correct - however you still had to be voted in by the other exec vips. The very very odd time, I'm talking back in HaRRo's days as admin a person would get upgraded to Jr Exec if their thread was removed from the public forums, it wasn't to take away from anyone it was because methods back in those days were often BH or would get patched fast if left public. That is essentially why Jr Exec was made, so they didn't need to be voted in they would be moved along with their thread to Jr Exec where Exec and Jr could view said threads but no one else could.

What happened? Well quality on the forum sucked after a few years so it became very rare for threads to be moved there. Secondly the guys in Exec dwindled, a lot moved on with life, so they nominations to vote new Execs in were almost 0 per year. When they did happen it was nothing to do with "buddies", it was put to a vote (I had to go through one myself twice actually) and the vote thread needed to list reasons why.

However even that was stagnant and both sections remained more or less dead.

Now I'll get to your nonsense statement regarding myself. You may not know this given you were banned during BigBuddys time as mod, but I was actually pushing like fuck within those sections to change all of that. So much so that I would get into regular arguments over it with Damien and other staff, execs and jr execs. I came up with a few ideas, you wouldn't have been there then either though as you were banned - one was the "Hunger Games" this went down pretty well and filled the forum with lots of great content, the aim was to get a load of threads from smart members then the best would get upgraded to Jr Exec and then towards Exec.

I pushed so hard at one point to get the sections busy again that they made up a new rule (DD loves doing that on the fly) that you could only make a nomination for someone to be upgraded once a month, I actually nominated @Zwielicht for his first upgrade to Jr Exec during my period of doing this and at a time when DD made another rule which we didn't quite get but we assume it meant if the vote ended up no then we lost our status, I did it anyway. So then I hit them with the Hunger Games idea which everyone was all for and it was a success in terms of content (nothing like the old days but still) and in getting people upgraded, again though the sections eventually died down once more. Z did a re-vamp of how to get in there, this was after I had left but I'd still check in now and again... it was a good idea getting people up there, but on the other hand some of them I see now are questionable, that's me basing it on what I seen Exec as back in my time there though.

So care to explain exactly what problem I was part of and what nonsense it involved? Given I wasn't even Exec of Jr Exec when you were there. Given that I actually pushed (to my own dismay at times) to get things changed in those sections. I'd be interested to hear you expand on this? It'll be interesting to hear from you based on you being banned during all this and not having access to those sections.

You say then underneath "corrupt mods" - that's one thing I never was, the opposite in fact... I would literally fall out with DD and argue with him in public in the staff area over corrupt or unfair shit he would pull regularly, it's why I stepped down as moderator after disagreeing with DD for the final time and telling him to stick his mod position. I'll assume you meant the moderator that banned you though BigBuddy as he did turn out to be corrupt.

Let me know and please be as specific as I've been, like I said - you were banned long before I was ever involved in trying to revive those sections, we have no idea who you were on there, so a bit of context to back your statement about me would be great.

 

[shattered world]

Jfc……

 

[t0mmy]

Jfc……

Is your lord and saviour......

 

[SilverClouds]

And the drama continues

 

[t0mmy]

And the drama continues

Missed you too!

 

[RiskyStuff]

Is it only me or it felt like they are gatekeeping community creation? A basic thing to kick off any marketing venture on the internet...
They even have a rule that forbids free speech of other communities.
As if the whole thing was engineered to keep you stuck at certain point...

One person there told me to do affiliate marketing through community creation and moderation, but it was told in "bragging way" - not as direct advice. In another discussion they claimed it's close to impossible to create community these days and I should stick to being a parasite. This is conflicting advice.

When you lie... you might forget where and when you lied...

 

[demonic_man]

You guys must have your own problems but i hate that Ai detector that mf calls me AI when i use my own fingers made of flesh to write the fcking comment. and they are saying that it also tracks the pattern and style like wtf man? if you write a proper comment with proper grammar without spelling mistakes, it will say that you are a fcking AI and if it keeps happening, you will be warned.. like really?

 

[roydan]

You guys must have your own problems but i hate that Ai detector that mf calls me AI when i use my own fingers made of flesh to write the fcking comment. and they are saying that it also tracks the pattern and style like wtf man? if you write a proper comment with proper grammar without spelling mistakes, it will say that you are a fcking AI and if it keeps happening, you will be warned.. like really?

I had to stop punctuating lol.. at some point I really thought I was in a blacklist.

 

[RiskyStuff]

You guys must have your own problems but i hate that Ai detector that mf calls me AI when i use my own fingers made of flesh to write the fcking comment. and they are saying that it also tracks the pattern and style like wtf man? if you write a proper comment with proper grammar without spelling mistakes, it will say that you are a fcking AI and if it keeps happening, you will be warned.. like really?

Indeed. You need to find your own style in writing and life. This is art. I told you about this.

It's your branding. Don't brand yourself like generic AI model.

These days it's mandatory to be unique, so you don't sound like a robot.

You can also make images, infographics, videos. If people around you care about your posts, they'll read images videos, listen to your podcasts etc.

Web 3.0 and web 4.0, virtual reality are closer and closer to reality. Writing is a domain of robots these days. People can do more without big effort today.

 

[demonic_man]

I had to stop punctuating lol.. at some point I really thought I was in a blacklist.

litreally, i am making spelling and grammatical miskakes by myself there which has ruined my English as it's not my native langauge. I also use grammerly. if i see red lines in my comment from grammerly then it is safe to be posted..xd

Indeed. You need to find your own style in writing and life. This is art. I told you about this.

It's your branding. Don't brand yourself like generic AI model.

These days it's mandatory to be unique, so you don't sound like a robot.

You can also make images, infographics, videos. If people around you care about your posts, they'll read images videos, listen to your podcasts etc.

Not everyone is an artist like you, sir. I am Genz, who used AI for almost everything i have learned many things from AI, so maybe I am influenced

 

[Dopious]

at some point I really thought I was in a blacklist.

Atleast your posts get posted, a lot of mine are going in moderation before they show up, and they never show up again .. talking about blacklisted huh ,, fckn hell.

 

[demonic_man]

Atleast your posts get posted, a lot of mine are going in moderation before they show up, and they never show up again .. talking about blacklisted huh ,, fckn hell.

I have to write comments twice because moderators ate the first comment

 

[RiskyStuff]

Not everyone is an artist like you, sir. I am

Being an artist isn't a black and white thing.

Some of this is mandatory in our life to feel the passion.

Good computer engineers make their things look like art. I can tell if code I found was like art or corporate sludge.

If you spend time with creative people, appreciate them, things even out and you naturally absorb some of that energy.

I love it.