Implemented Should soft lead gen/soft sales be added to the rules?

[Preying Mantis]

K bros so there's a thread in the saloon right now that got me thinking.

Mod says it doesn't violate any rules OK but then maybe soft lead gen or soft selling should be added to them.

I'm not saying the other guy is doing this for sure cause he was OK with that direct link being added in to the games on his site but it just seems like it might be a loophole for ppl in general to get around the selling rules.

 

[t0mmy]

Oh dear lord, like I said.. little to be at, no one’s soft selling on a forum with 500 members and around 50 are active.

Soft lead gen - do you know what lead gen is? It’s certainly not sending marketers to play games on a crypto related site. No this was a forum member and community member of 14+ years sharing some games ffs

You know what though it’s like I said in my last post there in that thread. It’s also going to drive people away this kind of vibe I’ve seen here.

You literally went and done what I said lol

The mod stepped in and edited the post, also pointed out the landing page rule. Case solved - rule already in place. What is your actual suggestion? There already is a rule as the mod stated, I wasn’t aware of it and tbh didn’t think it such a big deal, seems I was mistaken, unreal.

This is child play this, it’s actually pathetic. I share something fun on a Saturday night that’s on my own site (I ain’t someone that just signed up to promote to the 50 or so active members, I’ve been around people here years) and that no one here is buying because they’re not my target audience for starters smh… and we have people shouting soft selling, lead gen (it was certainly that on crypto twitter as that’s my target audience not the bingo hall here) and now a vote opened by one of the peanut gallery suggesting a rule that’s already in place.

rofl I give up

 

[roydan]

Saturday night

I thought you were in spain. Not sure why.

 

[SilverClouds]

I mean he's not only OG Plat but also purchased Sapphire AND Patron so I think it's fine. He's supporting the forum financially AND adds useful content on a regular basis. It's a business forum for god's sake, with a marketplace, people should be able to post things that help them get leads to their business... Let's just block random people with non-Sapphire, non-Patron accounts, only couple posts total, from coming here and spamming. Something like that posted from member that shares so much info, writes here regularly AND pays to the forum is fine imo.

 

[t0mmy]

I thought you were in spain. Not sure why.

I’m actually in Ireland, its morning but I been working on that UI all night so I tend to say it’s still night until I sleep lol

No packed up in spain a few years back, lived in Mexico for a year, spent last year then in Asia. Going to spend summer in spain though, will be going over in the next few weeks.

I mean he's not only OG Plat but also purchased Sapphire AND Patron so I think it's fine. He's supporting the forum financially AND adds useful content on a regular basis. It's a business forum for god's sake, with a marketplace, people should be able to post things that help them get leads to their business... Let's just block random people with non-Sapphire, non-Patron accounts, only couple posts total, from coming here and spamming. Something like that posted from member that shares so much info, writes here regularly AND pays to the forum is fine imo.

I’d see past it if I was actually trying to sell something or “lead gen”

 

[t0mmy]

It would be great if those voting for a yes on this could speak their minds, it's not like the peanut gallery to be so silent?

I want to hear your thoughts, usually I don't as usually it's a waste of time reading. However this one is so damn stupid AND more importantly ALREADY has a rule in place that I'd love to hear the "feedback" behind your diplomatic vote.

Keep in mind when responding (if you do) this all stemmed from a thread I made for fun last night - I'll not be doing that again in a hurry, actually spoke to GG today and was telling him I won't even be putting much effort in here going forward until the petty bingo squad stop getting their knickers in a twist over every little thing, anyone that sees that games thread last night as anything but a community member that's given tons back here and on our previous dwelling for almost 15 years sharing something fun is as cooked in the head as the OP is.

Now remember there ALREADY is a rule around this, so I've no fucking clue what you're all voting on lol

 

[t2van]

I assume it's OK to share a link to a product or service as long as it has a game?

Seems like would be a spamming paradise later if that allows you to get around having a trading post listing?

Share a ppc or link building service is OK long as you can click a link to play pac man..

That was the logic behind my vote.

 

[t0mmy]

I assume it's OK to share a link to a product or service as long as it has a game?

Seems like would be a spamming paradise later if that allows you to get around having a trading post listing?

Share a ppc or link building service is OK long as you can click a link to play pac man..

That was the logic behind my vote.

Yeah your logic is flawed though, because no products or services were viewable or clickable - only the games.

See there's my point - even with your flawed logic, this isn't a PPC or Link Buidling site.. it's a crypto trading tool suite. My target audience is NOT on OO, even if it was it would be a waste of time as there are around 50 active members, most of which don't post much, a big percentage that do just chat shite (like this). Much better suited platforms to post on if that was my intention.

I wouldn't have a trading post listing for this, because once again (repeating myself) my target audience is not on here. I do have one listing here for an SEO service because that audience will be here eventually, it doesn't get traffic yet because there barely is any.. I did it to support the forum like I did buying the badge to list it, the Patron badge and the content I share here. Perhaps I'll start making "suggestion" threads though going forward, that seems to be the order of the day.

Shared it here thinking people would have a bit of fun, not a fucking drama and a suggestion thread open.. seriously like?

Fact is, it wasn't my intention. Logic should tell you that though.. hence the flawedness.

 

[SilverClouds]

Seems like would be a spamming paradise later if that allows you to get around having a trading post listing?

But he HAS a trading post listing AND 2 paid badges, for god's sake... This should be allowed for paying members. Idk people here are anti business or what's the problem.

 

[t0mmy]

But he HAS a trading post listing AND 2 paid badges, for god's sake... This should be allowed for paying members. Idk people here are anti business or what's the problem.

It isn't anti business, it's anti fucking anything... it's like a bingo hall on a Tuesday night on here at times, moan about everything then wonder why people do actually leave or why there is rarely any content posted here outside the saloon or the famous suggestion section.

I actually agree with the rule that ALREADY exists about this (again what are we voting on here?), but the fact is a bit of "logical thinking" and even Stevey Wonder would see I meant no harm and wasn't posting or attempting "lead gen" on OO's bingo crowd.

 

[t2van]

So there's no crypto section here?

Your original link is to your service tho. No matter what it is. Still a service outside of the trading post.


Asked for a reply I gave one. Don't ask if you don't like it.

 

[t0mmy]

So there's no crypto section here?

Your original link is to your service tho. No matter what it is. Still a service outside of the trading post.


Asked for a reply I gave one. Don't ask if you don't like it.

Ah listen bro, I've watched you for a while.. you'd argue black is white and then use deflection when people reply "don't ask if you don't like it".. look at your signature for christ sakes, argumentative by nature you are. So I ain't even getting into it any further with you.

Oh I'm glad you replied, although you didn't need to for me to know you were one of those votes, I knew you'd be one of them - like I said at the start you'd argue white is black and it's always over the most pointless shit going.

 

[Dopious]

Sure, I voted yes on this, it seems like a grey area of self-promotion if we allow it when everyone and his mother start doing the same. In my mind, you share others stuff not your own, thats my take on this matter ..

 

[t0mmy]

Sure, I voted yes on this, it seems like a grey area of self-promotion if we allow it when everyone and his mother start doing the same. In my mind, you share others stuff not your own, thats my take on this matter ..

What are you voting yes on though? There is already a rule around not sharing landing pages, which is the case on any forum i've ever been on - hence the logic should tell you lot I was doing nothing intentional. I genuinely was sharing some fucking games... I have no need to promote anything here and it would be silly as:

1. There is no traffic
2. Any that is here are not my target audience for that site

AND 3. This thread is retarded - there already is a rule around this, the mod stepped in and edited the link and made me aware of that rule.

The time some people waste moaning and groaning around silly shit on this forum is surreal I swear.

 

[Dopious]

What are you voting yes on though?

I voted on sharing your own sites, as it needs to be a discussion on the subject, but sure I can throw up a game page on my site and share it too then .. dude, if people want to game and you like to help them, build a fckn game site .. how hard can it be to see the non-eisting promotion of a site that is not game related.

 

[t0mmy]

I voted on sharing your own sites, as it needs to be a discussion on the subject, but sure I can throw up a game page on my site and share it too then .. dude, if people want to game and you like to help them, build a fckn game site .. how hard can it be to see the non-eisting promotion of a site that is not game related.

“Dude” who am I promoting to exactly? Fucking hell.. take it as it was intended - 25 retro games I put on my site and let people in to play on CT (where my audience is), which I then shared here thinking yeah the OO crowd will enjoy this.. not oh maybe one of the 20 active people there will buy services which they don’t even have an interest in.

I’m done with this thread and any like it, not explaining myself any further, I don’t know why I even feel the need to as this is so fucking stupid… enjoy your votes and suggestions and complete bullshit talk that’s becoming the norm here.

 

[Dopious]

Dude” who am I promoting to exactly?

Relax, the bigger issue is the question here, not your tiny crypto project, forum is bigger than you.

 

[t0mmy]

Relax, the bigger issue is the question here, not your tiny crypto project, forum is bigger than you.

No, I think if you actually look this all started on the original thread - where a mod stated there ALREADY is a rule around this. If it's just a tiny crypto project then why the fuss? Who gives a fuck it's tiny and the user base here is tiny. Ah yeah it's big, so big that the threads with the most posts here tend to be nonsense like this in the Saloon or the suggestions sections.

Done, logging out and going to enjoy my Sunday.

 

[Dopious]

If it's just a tiny crypto project then why the fuss?

It is and can be a wider issue in the forum later on, again, not about you .. it is a discussion in a broader view.

 

[GoldenGlovez]

I've voted no on this; with a caveat.

OO is a small and growing community and it should be encouraged to share personal projects and accomplishments. Of course, as the forum grows it would become unwieldy to have numerous individual threads on every project a member is involved in.

My recommendation would be:

1: For long term projects and/or where the member wants to continually share updates that should done in the existing journeys sub-forum.
2: An automated weekly thread e.g "Showoff Saturday" where members who only want to share intermittent updates can post what they've been working on.

Both obviously subject to existing rules already in place e.g data collection, account requirements, etc.

At the end of the day, many here share a common goal of financial and workplace independence. We should be building each other up, not tearing each other down.