Where are the customers these days?

[jimbobo2779]

The past few of years have been tragic for me, on a personal. I have lost my sister and my Dad and it has been really fucking hard to concentrate on anything but that.

I used to do great business at the old place but, as with a lot of people, the amount of conversions from there is so low these days. I had put it down to me having very little time to do anything but care for my Dad but I have been back at it as hard as I can for the last few months and am really struggling to find the customers.

I have started doing some youtube vids and then chopping them up for shorts, I've been hammering Reddit and Twitter. I've also been updating the content on my website and pushing as hard as I can.

The good news is that traffic on my site has almost tripled since October but sales are only slightly up. I feel like a new website design that doesn't look so 2015 should help but while that is being worked on, what is working these days?

I am rambling and not really staying on topic, sorry about that.

TLDR; Where are the people with money to spend on IM / SEO products?

 

[roydan]

I found that niching down made it really easy (well, not easy, but easier) to acquire new clients. I speak their jargon, have relevant case studies. Got my name out in a few niches I went for.
Got some AI recommendations as well, which is cool.

 

[jimbobo2779]

I found that niching down made it really easy (well, not easy, but easier) to acquire new clients. I speak their jargon, have relevant case studies. Got my name out in a few niches I went for.
Got some AI recommendations as well, which is cool.

Excuse the ignorance, but what do you mean by niching down? Just searching for the niche to find forums and stuff? I already try to do that, been a member at most places for years and seeing nothing but rapid decline on all of my usual spots. I hope I'm not being a big dummy not understanding what you mean by niching down (probably am though tbf)

The big places like Reddit aren't dead but full of AI bots and overzealous mods.

 

[roydan]

Excuse the ignorance, but what do you mean by niching down? Just searching for the niche to find forums and stuff? I already try to do that, been a member at most places for years and seeing nothing but rapid decline on all of my usual spots. I hope I'm not being a big dummy not understanding what you mean by niching down (probably am though tbf)

The big places like Reddit aren't dead but full of AI bots and overzealous mods.

I have a PPC agency, so I found myself 2-3 niches to specialize in. Let's say travel businesses, insurance, and wineries. I posted case studies from these, got familiar with what they aim for, their business objectives, so it eventually got my name out there in these industries.
Joined some subreddits but I fuckn hate redditors.

 

[jimbobo2779]

I have a PPC agency, so I found myself 2-3 niches to specialize in. Let's say travel businesses, insurance, and wineries. I posted case studies from these, got familiar with what they aim for, their business objectives, so it eventually got my name out there in these industries.
Joined some subreddits but I fuckn hate redditors.

Ah I see.

I could not agree with you more about Reddit. Have you seen the circle jerk with the SEO based subreddit mods? There are a few guys that run most of the really big SEO related subs on Reddit and they will only allow talking about their own agencies / youtubes and such.

I had a mini run in with a mod on an SEO sub a couple weeks back because I said that tweeting could help to get a new domain indexed. OP was just wanting to know how to index a domain. I suggested socials and backlinks, was told I was dumb and that tweeting couldn't get you indexed. So I registered a brand new domain and put 1 link to it in a comment from my sub 200 follower twitter account. It was indexed within a few days.

I was told that the only reason I was refusing to learn was because of my ego and that I should read his links and learn about SEO before questioning people.

I made a basic claim, not addressing the mod even slightly, was told I was dumb, proved I was correct (in the nicest, calmest way I could), got called out for having a massive ego and told to go read and learn about domain authority and how to rank etc. I only mentioned how to get indexed.

Sorry to any Reddit mods that may be here, but, Reddit mods are massively anti social pricks.

 

[roydan]

I could not agree with you more about Reddit. Have you seen the circle jerk with the SEO based subreddit mods? There are a few guys that run most of the really big SEO related subs on Reddit and they will only allow talking about their own agencies / youtubes and such.

Nah, I don't even try lol

I was told that the only reason I was refusing to learn was because of my ego and that I should read his links and learn about SEO before questioning people.

Wow some people really need a mirror in their life

Sorry to any Reddit mods that may be here, but, Reddit mods are massively anti social pricks.

I think most OO members are also reddit mods, but not the LSF mod type of idiots.

 

[jimbobo2779]

Nah, I don't even try lol

Wow some people really need a mirror in their life

I think most OO members are also reddit mods, but not the LSF mod type of idiots.

Yeah, as I was writing I realised that I mod a couple myself. Haha, what a fucking hypocrite lol

 

[TheVigilante]

I have a PPC agency, so I found myself 2-3 niches to specialize in. Let's say travel businesses, insurance, and wineries. I posted case studies from these, got familiar with what they aim for, their business objectives, so it eventually got my name out there in these industries.
Joined some subreddits but I fuckn hate redditors.

Why do you have redditors ?

Is it because of the platform strictness or what?

 

[Octavia]

Why do you have redditors ?

Is it because of the platform strictness or what?

Elitism even more so after the API changes.

Instead of just you do not have enough karma. It's now also you do not meet my HIGH CQS setting.

Which you will never get if you are not from US or active on the platform.

 

[jimbobo2779]

Why do you have redditors ?

Is it because of the platform strictness or what?

For me, it is how tribal they are. It isn't strict, it is biased. If you say something that goes against their doctrine they won't just disagree, they will attack.

There are threads talking about ways that sub mods can get users site banned, not for breaking any rule, simply for having a "wrong" opinion.

In my example above, the mods will suppress real info and constantly push people to their services.

If the mods of Reddit SEO related subs are in here, please don't ban me

 

[roydan]

Why do you have redditors ?

Is it because of the platform strictness or what?

It's because they're a bunch of people that take their janitorial role too seriously and over time it filled their tiny insignificant life with a sense of fake self importance.

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If the mods of Reddit SEO related subs are in here, please don't ban me

We need to ban them from OO. No room for this toxic behavior here.

 

[polecat]

It's because they're a bunch of people that take their janitorial role too seriously and over time it filled their tiny insignificant life with a sense of fake self importance.

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We need to ban them from OO. No room for this toxic behavior here.

I would agree some of the most annoying alive on Reddit

 

[1974Mustang]

I would agree some of the most annoying alive on Reddit

That's what happens when you let anyone and everyone moderate a platform.

 

[polecat]

That's what happens when you let anyone and everyone moderate a platform.

Seems the case

 

[SilverClouds]

I think most OO members are also reddit mods

That explains a lot

 

[Zwielicht]

I think most OO members are also reddit mods, but not the LSF mod type of idiots.

Technically, the only subReddit any of us are moderators of is the OO subReddit. It's not really active, though.

It's because they're a bunch of people that take their janitorial role too seriously and over time it filled their tiny insignificant life with a sense of fake self importance.

It's the abuse as well. Not all of them are bad obviously as I've seen some well-managed Reddits, but since anyone can become a moderator there, you get a lot of people who power trip over having the slightest bit of control over someone else if their subReddit gets even a few members.

 

[indianmojojojo]

The past few of years have been tragic for me, on a personal. I have lost my sister and my Dad and it has been really fucking hard to concentrate on anything but that.

I used to do great business at the old place but, as with a lot of people, the amount of conversions from there is so low these days. I had put it down to me having very little time to do anything but care for my Dad but I have been back at it as hard as I can for the last few months and am really struggling to find the customers.

I have started doing some youtube vids and then chopping them up for shorts, I've been hammering Reddit and Twitter. I've also been updating the content on my website and pushing as hard as I can.

The good news is that traffic on my site has almost tripled since October but sales are only slightly up. I feel like a new website design that doesn't look so 2015 should help but while that is being worked on, what is working these days?

I am rambling and not really staying on topic, sorry about that.

TLDR; Where are the people with money to spend on IM / SEO products?

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