Finding clients through freelancer sites

I've been looking into getting clients by listing my services on freelancer sites like fiverr and upwork, but everything I've heard is that they are too saturated and it's impossible to get work through there.

Is this all true? Is there any point in using these kinds of sites?

Yes, what about BHW Marketplace?

back2form said:

Yes, what about BHW Marketplace?

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It's an option, but a little pricey for me. And I wouldn't want to create a sales thread in a section with a billion threads that have Please Read next to them.

7fruits said:

It's an option, but a little pricey for me. And I wouldn't want to create a sales thread in a section with a billion threads that have Please Read next to them.

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That's right, market place is flooded with more sales thread..

There is higher competition, if you are reputable you get clients out of competition..

Am not pushing you in this, just saying from the experience..

back2form said:

That's right, market place is flooded with more sales thread..

There is higher competition, if you are reputable you get clients out of competition..

Am not pushing you in this, just saying from the experience..

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Naw, thank you for sharing your experience man. BHW marketplace is a lot better than other freelance websites for now. I'd need to build a bigger reputation on there first though

7fruits said:

Naw, thank you for sharing your experience man. BHW marketplace is a lot better than other freelance websites for now. I'd need to build a bigger reputation on there first though

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This forum also getting ready with The Market place..
You might have noticed it..



Hopefully Launched Soon.. And Let's Give it a Try as like we're excited to start sales threads here. Once Ready! Stay Tuned..

7fruits said:

Is this all true? Is there any point in using these kinds of sites?

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Yes there is, however as you already stated its kind of saturated and hard to get jobs. If you do get jobs let them know to give a review afterwards. Reviews are boosting up your rankings and will help you get more jobs in the future. Other than that, there are a lot of other marketplaces (mostly smaller ones) out there where you can actually get some listings up as well. They may not have as much traffic as Fiverr or Upwork, but combine them all together might work wonders.

aol said:

Yes there is, however as you already stated its kind of saturated and hard to get jobs. If you do get jobs let them know to give a review afterwards. Reviews are boosting up your rankings and will help you get more jobs in the future. Other than that, there are a lot of other marketplaces (mostly smaller ones) out there where you can actually get some listings up as well. They may not have as much traffic as Fiverr or Upwork, but combine them all together might work wonders.

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Thank you for the advice! I think listing on as many sites as possible sounds like the way to go forward for now.

7fruits said:

Thank you for the advice! I think listing on as many sites as possible sounds like the way to go forward for now.

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yes, just make sure that you are always on top of your orders as if you do not fulfill the orders they can suspend your account.

Well you have 2 choices, go for a relatively unknown or new platform where there is not much traffic ( higher chance of getting hired) or go with a platform that is already known and have hundreds of listings per day of which you can reply ( lower chance of getting hired as newcomer but most likely less scammy)

back2form said:

That's right, market place is flooded with more sales thread..

There is higher competition, if you are reputable you get clients out of competition..

Am not pushing you in this, just saying from the experience..

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Not on BHW
I have zero sales in my 1 week thread
Others also experience that, I am in contact with few Jr.execs and they see massive drop of sales in last 4 months.
They done something wrong with the marketplace and it's flooded like never before. Also they destroyed bump system in categories other than SEO.
In SEO, every post is bumping the thread, even short one. In other sections if even moderator write "BUMP" or "Good Service", nothing will happen.
The exposure of threads there is a lot smaller than before.

Honestly, many of sellers I am in contact consider to abandon BHW.

Lukmat said:

Not on BHW
I have zero sales in my 1 week thread
Others also experience that, I am in contact with few Jr.execs and they see massive drop of sales in last 4 months.
They done something wrong with the marketplace and it's flooded like never before. Also they destroyed bump system in categories other than SEO.
In SEO, every post is bumping the thread, even short one. In other sections if even moderator write "BUMP" or "Good Service", nothing will happen.
The exposure of threads there is a lot smaller than before.

Honestly, many of sellers I am in contact consider to abandon BHW.

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Reason;- The Rise of Competition..

You will also need to invest on [pinned sticky ] in order to get some sales ..

In the past, there is Good Sales & have earn enough money in the marketplace section.

But things getting changed as the Time changes..

back2form said:

Reason;- The Rise of Competition..

You will also need to invest on [pinned sticky ] in order to get some sales ..

In the past, there is Good Sales & have earn enough money in the marketplace section.

But things getting changed as the Time changes..

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pinned is worthless, paid a lot for them, the true value is pinned globaly and banners, but they are occupied for next year xD

Lukmat said:

pinned is worthless, paid a lot for them, the true value is pinned globaly and banners, but they are occupied for next year xD

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Pinnedtogether with 30 other threads, yeah good way to stand out

Lukmat said:

pinned is worthless, paid a lot for them, the true value is pinned globaly and banners, but they are occupied for next year xD

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If it's worthless, why people occupied for next year..
Some people still earn decent money..

back2form said:

If it's worthless, why people occupied for next year..
Some people still earn decent money..

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Pinned in category - worthless, you can buy it ASAP asking Greg, no matter how many posts are pinned, they will accept everyone if you bring $90-$180 weekly
Pinned outside category (there are 2 places on top and 2 on bottom) are occupied whole year
Banner - occupied whole year

Lukmat said:

Not on BHW
I have zero sales in my 1 week thread
Others also experience that, I am in contact with few Jr.execs and they see massive drop of sales in last 4 months.
They done something wrong with the marketplace and it's flooded like never before. Also they destroyed bump system in categories other than SEO.
In SEO, every post is bumping the thread, even short one. In other sections if even moderator write "BUMP" or "Good Service", nothing will happen.
The exposure of threads there is a lot smaller than before.

Honestly, many of sellers I am in contact consider to abandon BHW.

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I've been talking with other members who were asking me about what's going on with this.

I won't go into great detail about it in a public post, but many of these changes happened starting in late 2023/early 2024 when they made someone who doesn't have an IM background the new marketplace manager. My processes weren't perfect, but a lot of them were altered or even done away with after this happened.

I'm sure you've heard things from other sellers who are being asked to describe how their service works, and based on all of this, anyone can put two-and-two together that the "free review copies" section exists just to compensate for the manager's lack of knowledge on the services. I don't know what the specific 'algorithm' they implemented is, but it's pretty clear it's done nothing but cause issues for many sellers on the platform.

Octavia said:

Pinnedtogether with 30 other threads, yeah good way to stand out

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I was messaging someone about this the other day. There were 31 stickies in the social media section, and then I checked again yesterday and there are now 32.

I heard from a former employee who worked there before me that there used to be a hard of 5 or 10 threads per section. I'm not sure when that was done away with.

Lukmat said:

Pinned in category - worthless, you can buy it ASAP asking Greg, no matter how many posts are pinned, they will accept everyone if you bring $90-$180 weekly
Pinned outside category (there are 2 places on top and 2 on bottom) are occupied whole year
Banner - occupied whole year

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Cool,
I've purchased several times in the past & Good experience in the past.. But not at Present or Recently..

Generally Speaking.
Many people can't afford paying $90 - $180 weekly.. Too high like wicked fire

Zwielicht said:

I don't know what the specific 'algorithm' they implemented is, but it's pretty clear it's done nothing but cause issues for many sellers on the platform.

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It was hinted to me pretty heavily that the 'algorithm' is essentially just based on word count with a slight focus on user status.

Zwielicht said:

I don't know what the specific 'algorithm' they implemented is, but it's pretty clear it's done nothing but cause issues for many sellers on the platform.

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So I will tell you the algorithm:
1. If someone newbie ask questions about your product, he write 2-3 sentences in thread, it will not bump the service to the home page
2. If someone below around 50 posts will write the review, it also not bumping thread to home page
Exception is SEO category, where hundreds of people write daily "Discount please" and it's bumping to home page

Last time they also moved all ebooks, courses from Mics to the proper new category. Nothing against about it. But exposure from home page is zero. Category not even exist in sidebar.
Bumps there are weird, my own bumps moving to home page but not in category list. Some random posts made yesterday are sometimes higher in category than today posts.
I wanted to post course in Mics, thats why I made also the web app supporting the stuff. No, you need to post in ebooks/courses

Mics is spammed with dozens of Trust Pilot review services sticked. There are also a lot of Google Ads accounts rental. If there is some interesting software, you need to dig in this spam. 24h bump not helped.
I was looking for great bumble bot to see how they guy manage his business, but it's burried somewhere in Mics. Seems he mostly sell now on Telegram.


EDIT: INCC if I remember, asked even one mod to try to bump his thread with short one sentence. Not helped! It not appeared on home page
So if someone write for example: "Your service looks great. I am interested, give me details for payment" it will not push to home page. It must be owner post or longer review.