Respect Your Elders

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Well, I am one of your elders and I say don’t respect your elders just because they’re your elders.

It’s a line I heard much growing up but one I think needs to be done away with.

Age isn’t wisdom and there are plenty in my age group who have no business giving advice on life… or anything else for that matter.

Respect them if they show you respect, not just because of their age.
 
Well, I am one of your elders and I say don’t respect your elders just because they’re your elders.

It’s a line I heard much growing up but one I think needs to be done away with.

I think repeat just gets confused with being polite.

Age isn’t wisdom and there are plenty in my age group who have no business giving advice on life… or anything else for that matter.
Biggest thing that pisses me off is people with no children given advice on children.
 
I think repeat just gets confused with being polite.
I think the same.
Biggest thing that pisses me off is people with no children given advice on children.
I had that happen after my first son was born. Aunts and uncles were telling me how he should be raised when they hadn’t had kids themselves.

It’s more excusable with them than a strange but not my cup of coffee all the same.
 
I had that happen after my first son was born. Aunts and uncles were telling me how he should be raised when they hadn’t had kids themselves.

It’s more excusable with them than a strange but not my cup of coffee all the same.
Yeah as you said its with everything really... But I tend to just be polite and nod with most topics.

The way I see it some problems can be solved with outside thinking and I often enjoy that. A fresh perspective and all that regardless of experience.

I also find as I try to explain everything to a person that doesn't understand I talk my way through and solve the problem myself.

The child one however I find it hard to be polite. I'm not a bite my lip kinda guy lol
 
Yes sir.
 
Agreed and agree with someone else that said “be polite” yes I agree with that, but respect.. fuck that, respect is earned not given. I know a lot of elders that are absolute clowns (especially baldy ones) I would never respect.
 
Agreed and agree with someone else that said “be polite” yes I agree with that, but respect.. fuck that, respect is earned not given. I know a lot of elders that are absolute clowns (especially baldy ones) I would never respect.
Not even an elder. He’s only 49 years old. He just looks old.

You can find his birth month and year on the Companies House website. It’s all public.

 
Not even an elder. He’s only 49 years old. He just looks old.

You can find his birth month and year on the Companies House website. It’s all public.


Yeah even at that he’s my elder we he’s got almost 2 decades on me in terms of age, but yes he definitely looks older.. clearly not wiser though.
 
Agree fuck that, respect is earned not given.
Personally (my opinion)

I see that as weak man thinking. You can't earn it if you refuse to give it in the first place. Respect comes from your own strength which is your character and behaviour. You don't need to earn it in order to give it. You should be strong enough to give it in the first place.

There's a difference between not tolerating disrespect and placing ultimatums on it or needing it for your own ego.



Anyhow.

Guys cut the other place bashing out, stop letting them live rent free upstairs. It's OO we all here to move on.
 
Personally (my opinion)

I see that as weak man thinking. You can't earn it if you refuse to give it in the first place. Respect comes from your own strength which is your character and behaviour. You don't need to earn it in order to give it. You should be strong enough to give it in the first place.

There's a difference between not tolerating disrespect and placing ultimatums on it or needing it for your own ego.



Anyhow.

Guys cut the other place bashing out, stop letting them live rent free upstairs. It's OO we all here to move on.

I disagree, I respect myself initially - I don’t respect (perhaps respect means different things to you than it does to me) strangers automatically, I’ll respect my morals and values by being polite to them yeah.. but actually respecting them, nah that takes time and it takes getting to know them.

And the wording there you used I think is a bit skewed:

“You don't need to earn it in order to give it” - Yes I don’t need to earn it, I already respect myself. It’s others I’m saying need to earn respect from (that’s just my personal stance) me, I’ve learned over my life to take people as you find them and then get to know them. I was brought up to be polite, have manners, don’t show “disrespect” for no reason and let people show you who they are.

Being nice, polite, courteous and civil is one thing… respect is higher up the ladder for me, thus it takes time for me to actually respect someone in the way that I define respect. That’s just me though.
 
I disagree, I respect myself initially - I don’t respect (perhaps respect means different things to you than it does to me) strangers automatically, I’ll respect my morals and values by being polite to them yeah.. but actually respecting them, nah that takes time and it takes getting to know them.

And the wording there you used I think is a bit skewed:

“You don't need to earn it in order to give it” - Yes I don’t need to earn it, I already respect myself. It’s others I’m saying need to earn respect from (that’s just my personal stance) me, I’ve learned over my life to take people as you find them and then get to know them. I was brought up to be polite, have manners, don’t show “disrespect” for no reason and let people show you who they are.

Being nice, polite, courteous and civil is one thing… respect is higher up the ladder for me, thus it takes time for me to actually respect someone in the way that I define respect. That’s just me though.
Maybe.

But if you treat someone as you take them. Then you automatically giving respect to start with?

I guess my wording was wrong. It's one of them things I guess:

I just never understand the logic of wanting to earn the respect in order to give it. Just give respect from day 1. It's fine if you lose respect in that person after.

Otherwise the whole earn it to give it thing is just weak thinking.

I don't see what being nice, polite, courteous and civil etc is any different? So that person isn't being respectful they just being nice? I don't get what respect is then if it's not those things also.
 
Maybe.

But if you treat someone as you take them. Then you automatically giving respect to start with?

I guess my wording was wrong. It's one of them things I guess:

I just never understand the logic of wanting to earn the respect in order to give it. Just give respect from day 1. It's fine if you lose respect in that person after.

Otherwise the whole earn it to give it thing is just weak thinking.

I don't see what being nice, polite, courteous and civil etc is any different? So that person isn't being respectful they just being nice? I don't get what respect is then if it's not those things also.

Not really.. it’s called being respectful (perhaps that’s where the confusion is) which again in my opinion comes back to me respecting myself - being polite and civil.

Actual respect is earned (at least in my book) by real actions, I mean don’t get me wrong I can “like” someone when I first meet them which in turn means I’ll be civil and friendly etc… but in this world we currently live in actual respect is a big thing to me, I don’t give it out lightly as I’ve seen people I’ve initially met and been nice with turn out to be pieces of shit.

And I’m far from “weak”.
 
Either they elders or younger, now a days things being straight.. if you respect you'll get respect, if you not they can't.. or sometimes if they not respecting your thoughts or you than stop giving them.. they are elders but doesn't mean to disrespect your younger ones. In India from childhood parents teach us give respect either they give you or not.. but now i stop all.. In my family all are expecting a lot from me. I did everything the best or much better i can do but after few days they started complaining.. this that.. pls go from my life.. i stop talking with them, stop everything.. just still doing my things as a human being. Now they are saying before you are too good but not now.. seriously that time you have a list of complaints. Now i am enjoying myself as i want to do.
 
I always like talking to older people. They are usually much more polite, and they don’t come from a generation that is heavily influenced by social media.
 
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