Unstoppable WordPress

[RiskyStuff]

Post your methods to build websites on WordPress here...

How you build your websites?

I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert.

I'm here for learning.

Everything from security to creating beautiful landing pages on this technology.

Let's see if someone overengineers or just keeps it simple.

I know the worst thing to build on WordPress for me was e-commerce. Just too clusterfckd experience with those themes and plugins. I hope you have a solution.

10 years ago I was attempting to optimize crappy theme. Got lost in it and I was concerned it's too much... it was so big, but all that site did was letting people make orders. Later I fired myself from that job.

 

[BlogPro]

I deliver anywhere between 3 to 5 sites a week.

My preferred way of building is getting a design figma approved and then delivering the site loaded with custom Gutenberg blocks, so it's editable/reusable but doesn't bloat the system like a page builder.

I use plugins only when it's an absolute necessity and the plugin provides a lot of functionality. If 10 or 20 lines of code can invoke a functionality, I won't be activating a wholeass plugin for it.

This ensures everything is blazing fast provided you have a good host.

I am also big on staging systems. Earlier they were the USP of the likes of WPEngine. But now most cPanel with Softaculous or WP toolkit provide the function, and am all for it.

For me, adhering to WordPress code standards is of extreme importance. So every functionality can properly be integrated within the WordPress ecosystem using their API.

And a clear distinction between a theme and a plugin is important too. Both are PHP and can replace one or the other. But too many themes these days masquerading as plugins and I dislike that, a lot.

 

[Dopious]

I deliver anywhere between 3 to 5 sites a week.

Maybe out of the threads subject, but in what price range do you deliver 3-5 sites a week. seems a lot for one developer.

 

[Outlaw]

I deliver anywhere between 3 to 5 sites a week.

My preferred way of building is getting a design figma approved and then delivering the site loaded with custom Gutenberg blocks, so it's editable/reusable but doesn't bloat the system like a page builder.

I use plugins only when it's an absolute necessity and the plugin provides a lot of functionality. If 10 or 20 lines of code can invoke a functionality, I won't be activating a wholeass plugin for it.

This ensures everything is blazing fast provided you have a good host.

I am also big on staging systems. Earlier they were the USP of the likes of WPEngine. But now most cPanel with Softaculous or WP toolkit provide the function, and am all for it.

For me, adhering to WordPress code standards is of extreme importance. So every functionality can properly be integrated within the WordPress ecosystem using their API.

And a clear distinction between a theme and a plugin is important too. Both are PHP and can replace one or the other. But too many themes these days masquerading as plugins and I dislike that, a lot.

What's your thoughts on WordOps vs CloudPanel vs FlyWP

Wordops is due updates over a year and WP has been changing up the background since around then, FlyWP has a cool free tier but CloudPanel and that seem to be prepared for everything future-WP

There's CyberPanel too, or GhostPanel, supposed to be a thing of beuty

 

[BlogPro]

Maybe out of the threads subject, but in what price range do you deliver 3-5 sites a week. seems a lot for one developer.

I have been running a firm with a modest team for about 16 years now. So not at all just one developer.

The ticket size depends on the client's needs. Our lowest goes at about 1.5k - but as the UI complexity, number of unique pages and the requested features increase, so does the price. We usually work as code partners for several established designers. They handle the design, we provide the code and the finished product.

What's your thoughts on WordOps vs CloudPanel vs FlyWP

Wordops is due updates over a year and WP has been changing up the background since around then, FlyWP has a cool free tier but CloudPanel and that seem to be prepared for everything future-WP

There's CyberPanel too, or GhostPanel, supposed to be a thing of beuty

Out of that list, CloudPanel is my absolute favourite. It's simply because I own it entirely. It rests on my server and let's me seamlessly manage sites without any issues whatsoever.

WordOPs I've tried, but it's maintainers need to be way more proactive with updates - especially as WordPress is rapidly making updates, pushing towards FSE and more API-centric builds.

FlyWP is a decent product. But then again it's a third party locked-in SaaS. And for some reason it makes me uncomfortable. So I pay DO or Vultr for the servers, then I pay FlyWP to manage them for me.

I've tinkered with both CyberPanel and GhostPanel - but they're not at a position where I'd use them on an actual client site or even a moderately high traffic site of my own. They need to be slightly more battle tested to have actually "arrived" IYKWIM

I am also about to try messing with PanelAlpha - they are very WordPress Oriented and provide an experience similar to one of the managed providers. Again not something I'd deploy for a client site. But enough to intrigue me.

 

[RiskyStuff]

So for now we know this

Figma as a tool to draft design and add colors. Of course avoid certain patterns... invent own design. Zero inspiration here.

But probably there is something better.

CloudPanel if it does anything, but since it's self hosted it won't hurt.

Then 2 - 10 databases with easy access.

Using default WordPress DB to store some crazy stuff sounds like a mess.

Don't answer to this post with lessons from textbooks. I know them well and they don't fit my world and creativity which is misinterpreted as something else.

 

[botboy]

I deliver anywhere between 3 to 5 sites a week.

A little off topic but are all the websites you deliver WordPress or does anyone request something custom or a different CMS?

 

[BlogPro]

A little off topic but are all the websites you deliver WordPress or does anyone request something custom or a different CMS?

We're a full-stack shop, so pretty much everything. We try to stay away from unnecessary bloat where possible. Not everything needs a CMS, not even WordPress is always needed.

WordPress is a common ask, because of its popularity and several clients have experienced some level of familiarity with it. Be it managing blogs, or making changes, or even running a Woo shop.

But when needed, we've built complex systems. Entire custom CRMs spanning customer lifetimes from leads/enquiries to after-sales support.

Mods, if this reads like self-promotion, please edit/delete this. I was merely answering the question.

 

[Outlaw]

@BlogPro what a response... I had to do a double take with my 8 hours of sleep on me

 

[Avenger]

We're a full-stack shop, so pretty much everything. We try to stay away from unnecessary bloat where possible. Not everything needs a CMS, not even WordPress is always needed.

WordPress is a common ask, because of its popularity and several clients have experienced some level of familiarity with it. Be it managing blogs, or making changes, or even running a Woo shop.

But when needed, we've built complex systems. Entire custom CRMs spanning customer lifetimes from leads/enquiries to after-sales support.

Mods, if this reads like self-promotion, please edit/delete this. I was merely answering the question.

Nah don’t worry, we can see that and you’re good.

 

[shattered world]

Nah don’t worry, we can see that and you’re good.

Good to see this honestly.