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OK, there is no more bookmark button in the new threads page.

roydan said:

Yeah I agree.
On another forum there's a bookmark button on the homepage. When I suggested they remove it, they asked-ignored-locked my suggestion so to this day, you can bookmark their homepage.

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I think the worst part about that is that it's actually really easy to remove. You literally just have to add a few lines of code to the page node.

I think that it would be better to auto-lock them a few days after it is marked closed. Even though now it's manageable, in a few months we could have thousands of threads being bumped every day and we're very likely to lost track for what needs and doesn't need to be answered.

Rem said:

poor @roydan
another one bites the dust
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but in all honesty, i been annoying Z about that for weeks now lol

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I prefer being rejected than being friend-zoned by the "can't resolve" prefix

Latest News Today

Z has been fired again via Whatsapp this time by @Impulse (I can't link this or @Impulse would kill me)

@Apricot was warned yesterday for... wait wrong script, let's try again, Fruity upgraded our servers yesterday and added cloudflare!

Well-known @MisterF has taken a return to the IM Forums scene

@back2form hotlinking WhiteHatForums images in his about section; wasting their resources

One of our Apprentice Moderator @God got baited and proven he was not omnipotent

@Octavia continue to kill it with his dedication on Forum Feedback & Forum Suggestions

@roydan celebrated and calling out the FIRST 100 Sapphire Members. You CAN BE HERE TOO. Limited spots only

Secret threads has been found in the Sapphire section which is one of the hidden perks for Sapphire Members Upgrade today!!!

Collab Giveaway from Z & @LuxRiches, don't miss out!

Speaking of giveaways, @Festinger Vault utterly destroyed Automaticc and is back with some freebies for the OG OO members

Need more PR? @indianmojojojo is celebrating his upgrade to Sapphire Status with his PR Giveaway

Okay, I for sure agree with this, but this is another one of those things where I'm trying to figure out how to balance being mostly hands-off and not dictating how someone tries to sell with rules and guidelines.

One thing I am fine with doing is putting restrictions on using brand names in the titles and sales copies. I implemented this after a user created some accounts with brand names. I let him keep the names of the accounts he made as he was just having fun roleplaying, but I did put restrictions in to prevent people from signing up as "Facebook Account Seller" or something.

To prevent our marketplace from becoming... that, I can add the same thing in and cite that there are issues with potential secondary liability with Safe Harbour provisions. Something I'm doing with the rules here is putting why they're there.

Here's what I added to The Trading Post rules:

Zwielicht said:

You may not use brand names, celebrity names, or other copyrighted or trademarked material in your thread titles or sales copy in a promotional or misleading way.

• Permitted exceptions include neutral, factual use such as “Instagram accounts for sale.”
• This rule exists to reduce the risk of secondary liability under Safe Harbour provisions.

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If you can think of anything else to prohibit, I'm all ears.

Apricot said:

Only non-committal guests and drop-ins get the preheated pizza slices. Our beloved members get fresh, customised and artisanal pizza slices cooked to order and served piping hot.

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With pineapples

that white annoys me lol

Search for .. basically unreadable

upon clicking filter
site goes dim, but nothing happens.
(Adblock is off)
Using Edge lastest ver

Titles is black, so unreadable with BG's black.
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Scrolling is a bit jumpy and not "smooth"


Shore more on the Left Side Filters blends in with buttons BG

Apply Filters feels unnecessary big?

Checkbox with the actual title feels 1 or 2 px off
Upon pressing Download inside a theme or plugin
the UI box for the download is too big


Use Download Plan is actaully a button, but it blends in originally until hovered over.


Using Search
Categories are blending in with BG, so unreadable.

Search still feels dodgey
with just a space between "Generate" & "Press"
I get

Which I have no idea what they are..
Next post cuz Img limit.

Congrat, even if I`m getting a bit worried when you are starting to talk about yourself in third person, guess there is meds out there but still worried

Rem said:

Nah, I don't need a VPS.
Was more towards having a thread, that people can give their own feedback and recommendations on why they are with that company.

While yes, nothing is really a 1 size fits all, but sizes are universal.
A small blog is still a small blog really and a company for example AWS is able to scale between small to big plans right.

To me, raw feedback without the intent of throat-shoved selling is the purest form of either appreciation or dissatisfaction (of the service).

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Okay, well then here are some of my suggestions:

1) Hetzner

• Affordable and powerful hardware.
• Good privacy standards as its based in the EU.

2) Vultr

• Has high performance plans (NVMe SSD, dedicated CPUs).
• Has a fast deployment.
• Cloud Compute and Bare Metal Options.

3) OVH

• DDoS Protection.
• You have lots of control over your hardware and networking if you like that.

4) FlokiNET

• Bulletproof .
• Based in Iceland, Finland and Romania which all have strong privacy laws.

5) OrangeWebsite

• Accepts Bitcoin and is known for pro-free-speech values.
• Has a reputation for ignoring DMCA-style complaints.

6) Netcup

• Variety of options and generally one of the better known VPS solutions with lots of great feedback from customers.
• DDos Protection and high availability.

7) PRQ

• Known to host almost everything as long as its not completely nuts and borderline illegal
• Offers extreme anonymity

There are a lot more, but these are the ones I have experience with. Have fun.

Festinger Vault said:

Sir, what is the hot rod and founding member tag? :O

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And the hod rod tag is just because I asked for it. It doesn't mean anything.

vfmseo said:

i see the same thing maybe after 100 posts it show?

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Currently,
A 4-day limit for the moment
I believe this will be changed later

yes
i just texted Z to get an answer lol

notNewB said:

another IM hood? someone please let me in

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Wow , Please Come In @notNewB ..,

Another Brand Username.. Welcome on Board..

Enjoy your stay happy ..

Oh wait.. I forgot about Crazy Lucifer
He started some passive aggressive threads in the lounge and I called him out for telling half the story, then had a huge fight with the entire world, announced his departure, blocked me after I DMed him to ask him to not make rush decisions.
What a fckn drama queen.

whooo
Congratulations @Rem

Duck said:

I was told that @Rem does not like reactions?
Was I lied to?

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besides the point, this clearly shows
@Rem is a pillar of the OO community.

back2form said:

So, You don't know about @Remi

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Acknowledging @Remi's existence is exactly what Remi would want. Remi gets no attention, validation, or any sort of spotlight !

Got it. To improve subject lines and body copy, it’s all about balancing personalization, value, and curiosity while avoiding anything that might look like a typical sales pitch or spammy.

Try subjects like:

"How we helped [similar company] double their revenue"
"A growth story that might interest [Company name]"

Email marketing is pretty tough. You need to test and rotate subjects and body of emails a lot until you figure out something that works. I suggest you start to use some sort of tracking software, or at least make a excel spreadsheet with statistics as it will be hard to optimize anything without any statistics. Make it sweet and short and to the point. Do not make it look like a spammy sales pitch and work a lot on your subject as it will ultimately determine if someone opens the email or not.

How to start a business online and not go bankrupt​

(A playbook for people who’d rather not waste time or money.)

Let’s be clear from the start:

You’re going to fail. Not once. Not twice. Many times.
Some ideas will flop. Some campaigns will burn money. Some content will get zero traction. That’s just the game.

But here’s the kicker, if you treat each failure as feedback, keep going, and consistently build better ideas off what you’ve learned, you'll eventually hit something that works.

The internet is a battleground. You don’t win it by being smarter. You win it by being relentlessly consistent, learning faster than others, and focusing on things that actually matter (spoiler: it’s not your logo).

This thread is a no-fluff roadmap for starting an online business the lean way, one that doesn’t bankrupt you financially, emotionally, or mentally.

Let’s go.

​

1. Understand the game: Active vs Passive Income​

Start here because this affects your time, money, and expectations.

Passive income sounds sexy, “earn money while you sleep.” Reality? You’ll be putting in months of work before seeing a single cent.
Active income (freelancing, consulting, tutoring) trades your time for immediate return. It’s the fastest way to get cash in the door.

Best move? Combine both.

Start with active income for stability, then use that income to build passive streams that scale.

Methods in this part:

• Freelancing
• Consulting
• YouTube
• Blogging
• Online courses / E-books
• Print-on-demand
• Dropshipping

Recommended reading:

• The Millionaire Fastlane by MJ DeMarco (good on mindset & leverage)
• StarterStory.com, endless case studies on both active and passive business models

​

2. Pick your model, and go deep​

Stop brainstorming 10 ideas and pick one.
Then commit to it long enough to know if it works.

Here’s a breakdown of real online business models that people are actually making money from. Each one works if you stick to it and put in reps.

Models you can start with little to no money:​

• Freelance: Fastest income. Offer a skill (writing, editing, design, dev, admin).
• YouTube: Build once, get views forever. Takes time but scales.
• Blogging: SEO-driven, long tail content machine. Monetize with affiliates + ads.
• Online courses / E-books: Teach what you know. High margins.
• Print-on-Demand: Merch without inventory. Low risk, creative upside.
• Dropshipping: Test products fast. Needs ad skills and grit.
• Reselling: Flip stuff on eBay, Facebook Marketplace. Cash flow from day one.

The key is not picking the best model, it’s picking one and focusing like a psycho.

Recommended reading:

• Company of One by Paul Jarvis (focus on sustainable solo businesses)

​

3. Validate the idea before building anything​

You can skip this step. But you’ll probably build something no one wants.

Before you buy a domain, write copy, or make an Instagram account, you need to validate.

Talk to people. Find 5-10 in your target audience. Ask:

• What’s your top 3-5 daily frustrations?
• What are you already using to solve it?
• What sucks about those solutions?

You don’t need surveys. You need conversations. If you hear the same problems again and again, you’ve found a pain worth solving. Now build around that.

Methods here:

• 30-min interviews
• Reddit deep dives
• Competitor analysis
• Google Trends + SEO tools (Ubersuggest, Ahrefs free tools)

Recommended reading:

• The Mom Test by Rob Fitzpatrick (best book on idea validation.)
• IndieHackers founder interview
• ExplodingTopics.com to find early signals of trending products

​

4. Build lean, get profitable early​

You don’t need investors. You need sales.

Your first job isn’t branding. It’s making your first $1.

Keep your costs low. Spend money on tools that bring in revenue. Skip the BS:

• No $5k logo
• No complex funnels
• No custom site if Webflow or WordPress will do (which 99% of the time, they will)

Think MVP: Minimum Viable Product. Sell before you scale.

Tactics:

• Launch as a service
• Sell via DMs
• Use Gumroad, Notion, Google Docs to deliver products
• Do it manually before automating

Recommended reading:

• Anything You Want by Derek Sivers
• Lean Startup by Eric Ries (just the early chapters are enough)

​

5. Market smart with no budget​

Attention > everything else. You don’t need a huge ad budget to win.

Start with organic distribution:

• Write threads, blogs, posts that help your audience
• Answer questions in communities (Reddit, Quora, Discord, Facebook groups)
• Create a small email list (offer a freebie)
• Build an SEO moat with evergreen content

And if you do ads, start tiny. Test $5-10/day on Meta or Google. Never scale until something is already working.

Referrals, community, and relationships go a long way.

Recommended reading:

• Make by Pieter Levels (his strategy = build fast, market smart)
• Building a StoryBrand by Donald Miller (clarify your messaging)

​

6. Build a system or burn out trying​

Motivation fades. Systems stay.

Don’t rely on willpower. Systemize your workflow:

• Use tools like Obsidian or Notion to track ideas, tasks, and progress
• Set content goals (e.g. 1 video/week, 1 blog/week)
• Timeblock your work (hyperfocus hours)
• Reflect weekly, what moved the needle, what didn’t?

You’re not just building a business. You’re building a new lifestyle. Treat it with the respect it deserves.

Recommended reading:

• Atomic Habits by James Clear (systems > goals)
• Deep Work by Cal Newport (protect your time)

​

7. Be mentally prepared to fail, adapt, and keep swinging​

This isn’t a success thread. This is a survival thread.

• You’ll get ghosted by leads.
• Your first launch might flop.
• You’ll question your skills more than once.

But if you keep showing up, tweaking your process, and iterating on your offer, you will find something that works.

When it does, it’ll feel like cheating.

Recommended reading:

• Rework by Basecamp founders
• Seth Godin’s The Dip (know when to push through vs quit)
• r/Entrepreneur, not always quality, but a great place to see the real struggles

Final words​

Don’t overthink this. Don’t plan forever.

Just pick something and start. Validate. Sell. Improve. Repeat.

You’ll fail more times than you succeed.

But the internet has infinite leverage, it only takes one success to change your life.

Bookmark this if you’re serious.

Let me know if you want feedback on your specific business idea, I'm happy to help.

Cheers.

Rem said:

does SE have KYC restrictions?

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Depends on the reseller as for now it seems. But if you register as a private person and not a company, your details will not show up in a whois for privacy reasons only companies details shows in whois.

You missed the most important one: internal linking, especially linking to pillar pages or money pages from the supporting pages, as well as interlinking within the supporting pages of the same cluster.

Welcome to OO!

Now we’re waiting for a kitty to join OO and then the game begins!

Earlier, I shared a list of the best AI tools for developers, and now I'm back with an even larger list of AI tools across diverse fields.

Here you go:

AI Assistants

1.ChatGPT - AI chatbot for conversation, writing, and problem-solving.
2. Claude - Advanced conversational AI by Anthropic.
3. DeepSeek - AI for knowledge search and data discovery.
4. Grok - AI assistant integrated into Slack for collaboration.
5. Tidio - AI-powered chatbot for customer support.
6. Botsonic - AI chatbot platform for building custom bots.
7. Chatbase - AI tool for building and managing chatbots.

Notetakers & Meeting Assistants

8. Otter AI - Transcribes meetings and conversations in real-time.
9. Fireflies AI - AI assistant for meeting transcriptions and summaries.
10. Meetgeek - AI-powered meeting assistant for notes and summaries.
11. Fathom - Automatically records, transcribes, and summarizes meetings.

Writing & Content Creation

12. Writesonic - AI writing tool for blog posts, ads, and more.
13. Rytr - AI content generation for articles, emails, and social posts.
14. Sudowrite - AI tool for creative writing and brainstorming ideas.
15. Jasper - AI writing assistant for content creation and marketing.
16. Scalenut - AI writing tool focused on SEO-friendly content.

Grammar & Writing Improvement

17. Grammarly - AI-powered grammar checker and writing assistant.
18. Wordtune - AI tool for improving writing clarity and style.
19. Quillbot - AI paraphrasing and grammar correction tool.

Research Tools

20. Perplexity AI - AI search tool for finding information and answering questions.
21. Deep Research - AI-driven research assistant for academic and professional work.

Image Generation

22. Midjourney - AI tool for generating creative and artistic images.
23. Flux 1.1 Pro - AI-powered image generation tool.
24. GPT-4o - AI model that generates images based on textual prompts.

Video Generation & Editing

25. Pictory AI - AI tool for creating and editing short-form videos.
26. Descript - Video and audio editing tool with AI features.
27. OpusClip - AI-powered video editing tool for clipping and summarizing.
28. Filmora - Video editing software with AI-enhanced features.
29. Synthesia - AI tool for creating AI-generated video presentations.
30. Runway - AI-driven creative toolkit for video editing and generation.

Transcription Tools

31. Revi ai - AI tool for accurate transcription of audio and video content.

Voice Generation

32. ElevenLabs - AI tool for realistic voice generation and speech synthesis.
33. Murf ai - AI voice generator with lifelike, customizable voices.
34. Play ht - AI-powered text-to-speech tool for creating realistic voices.
35. Lobo ai - AI voice creation platform for narrations and voiceovers.

Music Generation

36. Suno - AI tool for generating original music tracks.
37. Udio - AI music generation tool for creating tunes and soundtracks.

SEO Tools

38. Surfer SEO - AI tool for on-page SEO optimization and content strategy.
39. Alli AI - AI-driven SEO automation for website optimization.
40. Rank Math Pro - AI-powered SEO plugin for WordPress.
41. Pro Rank Tracker - AI tool for tracking search rankings and SEO analytics.

Social Media Management

42. Vista Social - AI-powered social media management platform.
43. FeedHive - AI tool for social media post creation and scheduling.

Design & Graphics

44. Canva Magic Studio - AI tool for creating designs and graphics with ease.
45. Looka - AI-driven logo and brand design tool.
46. Illustroke - AI-powered vector design tool for creating illustrations.

Project & Task Management

47. ClickUp - Task management platform with AI features for productivity.
48. Asana - Project management tool with AI-driven task tracking.
49. Reclaim AI - AI-powered calendar and time management tool.
50. Clockwise - AI-based time management tool to optimize your work schedule.

App Builders & Coding

51. GitHub Copilot - AI-powered code suggestion and completion tool.
52. Cursor - AI tool for improving coding efficiency and writing scripts.
53. Tabnine - AI code completion tool to accelerate programming.
54. Bubble - No-code AI-powered platform for building web apps.
55. CodeWP - AI assistant for WordPress development and coding.
56. Bolt - AI tool for building high-performance apps with minimal code.
57. Lovable - AI-driven platform for designing and building apps.

Marketing & Ads

58. AdCreative - AI tool for creating and optimizing ads.
59. Ocoya - AI-powered social media marketing platform.
60. Pencil - AI tool for automating ad creation and optimization.
61. Adzooma - AI platform for optimizing digital ad campaigns.

Email & Communication

62. HubSpot Email Writer - AI tool for composing marketing emails.
63. SaneBox - AI-powered email management tool for organizing inboxes.
64. Shortwave - Email tool with AI-driven features for better communication.

Presentations

65. Gamma - AI tool for creating stunning presentations effortlessly.
66. Presentations ai - AI-driven platform for automating presentation creation.

Resumes & Job Tools

67. Teal Resume Builder - AI-powered tool for creating customized resumes.
68. Kickresume - AI-driven resume builder with pre-made templates.
69. Textio - AI tool for enhancing and writing job descriptions.
70. CVViZ - AI recruiting platform with resume optimization.

Customer Support

71. Hiver AI - AI tool for improving team collaboration and customer support.
72. Freshworks Freddy AI - AI-driven customer support platform for automating tasks.

Knowledge Management

73. Notion AI Q&A - AI-powered knowledge base for organizing and retrieving information.
74. Guru - Knowledge management tool with AI features for team collaboration.

Plagiarism & Detection

75. Originality ai - AI tool for detecting plagiarism in content.
76. Winston AI - AI-driven plagiarism checker for digital content.
77. ZeroGPT - AI tool for detecting AI-generated text.

Website Builders

78. Wix AI - AI-driven website builder for easy site creation.
79. Framer AI - AI-powered web design tool for building interactive websites.
80. Hostinger AI - AI website builder for creating responsive sites.
81. Divi AI - AI-powered website builder for designing beautiful pages.

E-commerce

82. Shopify Magic - AI tool for automating e-commerce tasks on Shopify.
83. Retention Science - AI platform for improving customer retention.
84. Ecommerce Booster (Semrush) - AI tool for boosting e-commerce site performance.

Automation & Productivity

85. Zapier AI - Automates tasks by connecting various apps using AI.
86. Automate io - AI-powered tool to automate workflows across platforms.

Podcast Creation

87. Fliki - AI tool for creating podcasts and voiceover content.

Education & Learning

88. Quizlet AI - AI-powered tool for creating quizzes and learning materials.
89. Khanmigo - AI tutor from Khan Academy for personalized learning.

Character & Story AI

90. Character ai - AI for creating dynamic characters and storylines.

HR & Recruiting

91. HireVue - AI-powered platform for interviewing and assessing candidates.
92. Pymetrics - AI-driven tool for assessing candidate fit based on skills and behavior.

Analytics & Forecasting

93. Alteryx - AI-powered analytics platform for data-driven decision-making.
94. Tableau with Einstein - AI-enhanced data visualization tool.

Sentiment Analysis

95. MonkeyLearn - AI-powered sentiment analysis tool for text.
96. Lexalytics - Sentiment analysis and text mining tool using AI.

Cybersecurity

97. Darktrace - AI-driven cybersecurity platform for detecting and responding to threats.
98. ReSec Technologies - AI-powered solution for secure email and file protection.

Financial Analysis

99. Kensho - AI tool for financial analysis, forecasting, and insights.
100. ChatGPT with Code Interpreter - AI assistant for financial modeling and data analysis.